2012

Does anybody take interest in the leaking news and awareness of the planet nibiru or planet x, from my studies of Nostradamus he predicted the end of the earth from a comet coming from behind the sun, could both these theories be connected in some way?.

What I do believe, is the obvious dis-information and power strangle hold our western governments have on us, by an elite group of super rich secret societies, we are being spoon fed bull sh*t and the free world we thought we live in is not real. UFOs exist, and over the next four years I'm expecting a rough ride into 2012.

feel free to discuss any points above with me, and inform me on any developments or theories which you believe in.

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I heard that Nibiru presently can be seen from just the southern points ..Antarctica. They have more ICE SHEETS/Ice bergs breaking off than the last 10 yrs.. But Nibiru will be seen around May 2009 by most populated continents, so if it's true that's when we'll know. NASA first announced it back '98 I think, but then they retracted and hushed it up. But the Earth changes that we are experiencing are part of its affect and when it passes the Sun, things might heat up a bit more for us. The Fact that Norway built an underground SEED depository is interesting. And there are rumors everywhere for the Top Elite in Government/Power have places to go …with D.U.M.B's — yeah Deep Underground Military Bases is also interesting, with bullet trains Especially when some American engineer's started spilling the beans and discovered a network/hive of Grays. Personally, I think the reason prices are so high, are where these corporations and people are getting payed off in a big way. Shows that they need the MONEY for something. Like their own private pit of despair.
But don't worry though. Because while Nibiru maybe coming, it's the Galactic alignment of our Sun, Earth and the Center of our Universe that is MORE Interesting. It turns out NASA isn't as smart as they thought. There are twin Black holes at the center of our Universe and these are the BIG MOTHER Chakra's of all time and they are widening. That's the count-down to the Mayan Calendar (+ I Ching, and other prophesies) and the 5th World that's a coming. Feel your DNA awakening yet ?!!

When I first saw the Nibiru websites I thought it was just a hoax, but after a considerable thoughts, I believe it is not a pure hoax either. Because I made a traditional Hindu astrological calculation known as 'Kocharam' (that is planetary positions during the year 2012) to my surprise the planets are caught in “Kala Sarpa configuration”. That is all seven planets are caught between; Rahu and Ketu (7 planets + Rahu and Ketu =9 planets) which is not auspicious so I have mixed thoughts about this Nibiru mania. Moreover; Kobe University websites clearly states that the existence of a 10th planet and it is causing disturbance in the orbits if Pluto and Neptune. If all these are just hoax why world astronomical bodies such as NASA, ISRO, ESA do not categorically release any statements refuting all this crap? Especially when thousands of websites are spreading the information about the arriving planet. Why is the 10th planet so far not included in our school educational academy syllabus. We need crystal clear answers not vague refusals.

Hello, folks- what follows is a synopsis of ancient records and astronomy, concerning changes that could be coming in 2012. My sources are the books of Zechariah Sichen, the prophecies of Nostradamus, the Bible, and Prof. Briskin of the University of Cincinnati, where I am a student.

Sumerian records tell of a rogue planet, Nibiru, which once orbited the Sun between Mars & Jupiter. It is about Jupiter's size & was knocked out of its orbit by a long-ago cataclysm; as a result, it now follows an orbit that is a flat ellipse, which takes it out of the solar system altogether only to return to its old orbit briefly once every 3600 years or so. The rogue planet is also unstable and breaking up.

Because of this instability, Nibiru's exact date of return is not always easy to predict. The god Enki (one of the good guys, folks) would fly to his base on the Moon in his ship to look for the following signs of the planet's imminent arrival: first, the planet Jupiter would "grow a pair of eyes". Jupiter has developed a second Great Red Spot in recent years- and they do indeed look like a pair of eyes. Second, Olympus Mons on Mars, the largest volcano in the solar system, would become violently active. NASA's been sending an awful lot of stuff to Mars lately, folks- you get one guess why, & it's not just to discover life or water!

Nibiru's return usually wreaks havoc in the solar system. Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and frequent violent storms become common & more numerous as it gets closer. The asteroids in the Belt, its old orbit, get knocked about in great profusion and cause hellish meteor storms upon Earth. At its nearest approach to Earth, Nibiru's strong magnetic field slows Earth's rotation temporarily; for three days, the Sun crawls so slowly across the sky that it does not set, and the other side of the Earth experiences three days of darkness.

Nibiru's final approach is rather insidious. According to ancient astronomical record, part of which is in the Bible, no less, it causes a Deluge. Its last appearance was in 1600 B.C. Nibiru's timeline for 2012 goes something like this:

In September of 2012, Nibiru will be visible to us on Earth with a telescope. The Bible & Nostradamus say it will appear between Orion & Taurus & the Milky Way. By February of 2013, it will be visible to the naked eye! It lines up by then near Aldebaran in Taurus, making the Bull look like it has a pair of red eyes. The ancient Egyptians called Nibiru the Red Eye of Horus. It will be star-sized at this point.

Now comes the difficult part. Nibiru gets gradually blotted out by the Sun as the Earth orbits it. On or about May 10th-11th, Nibiru begins to come out from behind the Sun . It is now at its closest point to Earth. It will be the size of the Moon, & bright red- Nostradamus says "it shall seem as though there are two Suns in the sky". Violent quakes upon Earth will be accompanied by a big, wild storm that comes up out of the southern latitudes that lasts for a whole week. The world will be a very unsettled place until Nibiru has started back upon its way out of the solar system. It leaves in the direction of the constellation Sagittarius by the end of 2013.

Geological record carries abundant proof of Nibiru's visits. For example, up until about 5200 B.C., what is now the Black Sea was once a large freshwater lake. Apparently, something caused the Mediterranean Sea to rise & flood so badly that it overflowed into the lake & created not just the Black Sea, but the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara & the Dardanelles! This is thought to be Noah's Deluge in the Bible. The disappearance of Atlantis occurred during an even older visit from Nibiru- in 8800 B.C., or 10,800 years ago. All dates, please note, are approximate.

As for Enki, he is one of the Eldest Children of the One God, one of the Elohim. He left records to warn Earth's people of Nibiru's coming until he could return. I have tried to say a great deal in a very small space, here; but everyone can find lots of information in Zechariah Sichen's many books, especially "The Lost Book of Enki" & "The 12th Planet". Jupiter's "eyes" can be seen on the many astronomy websites available. I recommend Graham Hancock's excellent book, "Underworld", for a look at how the geography & oceans of the world have changed over time, as well as evidence of many ancient cultures which vanished beneath the seas each time Nibiru passed. Unfortunately, there are no good translations of Nostradamus available in print- I learned long ago as a student of French that if you want anything done right, do it yourself! I've made a point of translating most of the near-1,000 prophecies over the years- ask me the right questions, & I may be able to give you some good answers- you can make up your own minds. You can email me at : deianera@fuse.net

Au revoir- 'bye for now- have hope & be informed! Knowledge is power. Deianera

By the way, folks, I need to add a brief postscript here- the Maya called Nibiru Viracocha. Deianera

Hi Deianera! Thanks for the info! It is very enlightening. Between you, and Walker, a lot of “legitimately researched” information has been posted. Not only have both of you posted the info…you have included references, as well as websites! This is great and will definitely keep me busy studying for a couple of days. You have also given this website a lot of “credibility”.

Although NASA and others have not been able to confirm a “rogue” body in space (I do not know whether or not they would if they did spot it), is not to say it’s not there. Unless the body is flying at near the speed of light, it would take more than four years to reach the inner orbit of the Sun.

However, this object does not have to reach the Sun, all it has to do is shake up various objects in the outlying solar system and send them flying inward toward the Earth. IF, as some have speculated, this rogue object approaches from the opposite side of the Sun, or from the side, whatever the case may be, and never comes close to the Earth itself, or between the Earth and Sun, due to it’s presumed size, it WOULD have enough influence on the Sun’s gravitational energy to affect the amount of energy the Earth would normally receive (yes I know it’s a “run-on” sentence, sorry). It will most probably be enough to cause severe havoc on Earth.

Anyway, these are my thoughts. Most of what we say here is speculation, as we cannot count on the government’s of this world to confirm anything!!! Perhaps by our continuing to post what we know, and speculate, someone with the resources at hand will read and be able to confirm some of these things for us. I do have faith in God!!!

Thanks, Bob! It can be hard to put this info out there because so much of it is so OLD...I really feel like I'm going out on a limb, sometimes. NOBODY knows it all! Once upon a time, humankind had vast libraries in places like Alexandria, Egypt where precious knowledge about times like these & much else was safely kept, just in case... but it was all sacked & burned for the most part by armies of barbarians. History, unfortunately, gets rewritten by the winners, no matter how cruel or barbaric they are. Nibiru is the sort of thing that would never get reported by the "powers that be" in order to avoid world panic- at least until it is too late, I guess... but Time will tell. Deianera

Deianera wrote:Hello, folks- what follows is a synopsis of ancient records and astronomy, concerning changes that could be coming in 2012. My sources are the books of Zechariah Sichen, the prophecies of Nostradamus, the Bible, and Prof. Briskin of the University of Cincinnati, where I am a student.

Sumerian records tell of a rogue planet, Nibiru, which once orbited the Sun between Mars & Jupiter. It is about Jupiter's size & was knocked out of its orbit by a long-ago cataclysm; as a result, it now follows an orbit that is a flat ellipse, which takes it out of the solar system altogether only to return to its old orbit briefly once every 3600 years or so. The rogue planet is also unstable and breaking up.

Which Sumerian records are you talking about. Give us references please

Deianera wrote: Nibiru's return usually wreaks havoc in the solar system. Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and frequent violent storms become common & more numerous as it gets closer. The asteroids in the Belt, its old orbit, get knocked about in great profusion and cause hellish meteor storms upon Earth. At its nearest approach to Earth, Nibiru's strong magnetic field slows Earth's rotation temporarily; for three days, the Sun crawls so slowly across the sky that it does not set, and the other side of the Earth experiences three days of darkness.

Can you give us detailed examples of this and references so we can cross check your "facts"?

Deianera wrote: Nibiru's final approach is rather insidious. According to ancient astronomical record, part of which is in the Bible, no less, it causes a Deluge. Its last appearance was in 1600 B.C. Nibiru's timeline for 2012 goes something like this:

Which ancient astronomical records are you referring to? Can you give direct evidence?

Deianera wrote: Geological record carries abundant proof of Nibiru's visits. For example, up until about 5200 B.C., what is now the Black Sea was once a large freshwater lake. Apparently, something caused the Mediterranean Sea to rise & flood so badly that it overflowed into the lake & created not just the Black Sea, but the Bosphorus, the Sea of Marmara & the Dardanelles! This is thought to be Noah's Deluge in the Bible. The disappearance of Atlantis occurred during an even older visit from Nibiru- in 8800 B.C., or 10,800 years ago. All dates, please note, are approximate.

Can you give us documented proof of this "abundant" evidence apart from one or two instance that may or may not have been caused by a rogue planet?

Deianera wrote: As for Enki, he is one of the Eldest Children of the One God, one of the Elohim. He left records to warn Earth's people of Nibiru's coming until he could return. I have tried to say a great deal in a very small space, here; but everyone can find lots of information in Zechariah Sichen's many books, especially "The Lost Book of Enki" & "The 12th Planet". Jupiter's "eyes" can be seen on the many astronomy websites available. I recommend Graham Hancock's excellent book, "Underworld", for a look at how the geography & oceans of the world have changed over time, as well as evidence of many ancient cultures which vanished beneath the seas each time Nibiru passed. Unfortunately, there are no good translations of Nostradamus available in print- I learned long ago as a student of French that if you want anything done right, do it yourself! I've made a point of translating most of the near-1,000 prophecies over the years- ask me the right questions, & I may be able to give you some good answers- you can make up your own minds. You can email me at : deianera@fuse.net

Au revoir- 'bye for now- have hope & be informed! Knowledge is power. Deianera

Citing Zechariah Sitchen's works as evidence is massively misleading. His translations of "Ancient Sumerian" and other texts has been proved wrong, inaccurate and in some instances outright lies, time and time again.
Do you have any empirical proof of anything you are saying?

Why do you even care? What evidence to the contrary have YOU got? Get out of the closet! Don't just bully people here on the net to pass the time- stick your own neck out, for once. TELL US WHY YOU THINK WE'RE WRONG! You hate us all for being, as you put it, "a bunch of religious idiots" but you never say a word about why a person of your sort is bothering with us here in the first place. Stop wasting your time! THERE IS A CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THIS SITE- & you're crossing the line. You won't be the first to have been blocked off of it! Deianera

Deianera wrote:Why do you even care?

Why shouldn't i care? You claim we''re going to suffer massive catastrophes as the planet Nibaru passes by or collides with earth, I think that gives me very good reason to care.

Deianera wrote:What evidence to the contrary have YOU got? Get out of the closet! Don't just bully people here on the net to pass the time- stick your own neck out, for once. TELL US WHY YOU THINK WE'RE WRONG!

Why do i think you're wrong? Because you have no empirical proof whatsoever, only conjecture and hearsay.
Where is the proof?

Deianera wrote: You hate us all for being, as you put it, "a bunch of religious idiots" but you never say a word about why a person of your sort is bothering with us here in the first place. Stop wasting your time!

Where in any of my posts have i said your "a bunch of religious idiots"? and where in any of my posts have a I said i hated you?
I didn't think trying to engage in an intelligent conversation was a waste of my time

Deianera wrote: THERE IS A CODE OF CONDUCT FOR THIS SITE- & you're crossing the line. You won't be the first to have been blocked off of it! Deianera

Why am i crossing the line by asking you questions and verification of your claims?
I have to admit i'm rather perplexed at your hostility to simple questions asking you to verify your claims.

And in fact you openly insult me in other threads ( viewtopic.php?f=1&t=80 ) e.g. by calling me an "ignorant know it all". Perhaps it's you who is overstepping the line my friend
Why are you so scared to have your "facts" challenged?