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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby Calallan2 » Sat May 30, 2009 9:58 am

When the Bible was written, the world did not have an understanding of science as they do today. I agree that much of the Old Testament is mythical but there are also parts that were misunderstood by the observers. Heaven is not some place in the clouds with angels flying around with wings. Heaven is what we now know as space and the rest of the Universe. They would interpret anything that came from Heaven (Space) as angels or gods or even demons, but they were really visitors from distant worlds. Our creators were really advanced lifeforms that were thousands to a million years ahead of us. They had probably been seeding other planets with life for quite some time before they reached Earth. They had known the genetic code for quite some time and were knowledgeable in genetic engineering.

Along with this, there is intelligent design that created the Universe to begin with. The creation of the universe did not happen by chance. There is a Creator who planned and set up the physical laws that govern the universe and even created the DNA code by which life is formed. The Creator originally produced the matter that would form the Universe and yes, there was a "Big Bang" as that was when the Creator put all of this into motion.

So there are two realms, that being the physical universe that we inhabit bodies in and the spiritual realm where the Creator resides and where all intelligent lifeforms started out.
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby annonomous » Sat May 30, 2009 9:13 pm

You guys have to remember the bible was written by a guy 2000 years ago. You can't take everything seriously. It was just written by followers of Jesus who wanted the world to believe that there is satan and god and that this is the son of god. I doubt that they really cared if there was life off this world or not or if the sun orbited us or the other way around. So you can't take everything in there seriously. If they had carbon dating and some good telescopes, the bible would be a little different but the general idea would be the same. There is god and there is satan and Jesus is the son of god. The church needs to accept the fact really, who cares if evolution exists or what orbits what. The guys who wrote the bible sure didn't. And another thing I hate it when people do evil things and say it was is the name of god and lately the church has been doing that or at least they did behead people who didn't believe. The church needs to stop trying to save the world for a minute and try to reinvent themselves before they make the world any worse than it already is.
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby tuwin0 » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:45 am

There's probably reasons based on reasons for coverups. One school of thought is that Confirming ETs & subsequently their technology in our present world climate of religious, economic and political differences / turmoil, would be akin to opening Pandora's Box.
For example; People would demand the technologies to provide the world with clean, free energy; which would reduce pollution, provide (theoretically) cheap and perhaps maintenance free commercial, transportation, industrial, agricultural, metro, rural, domestic power solutions and yes - entirely new military defence logistics that would make nuclear technology redundant. This is only what I can think of at the moment of this writing. So why not disclose. Well, despite collapsing the fossil fuel, uranium and the countless off shute dependant industrial, transportation and technology industries built on the old technologies; equating to billions of job redundancies, the real concern I would imagine would be for loss of control / regulation of the new energy based applications. Given that wars / terrorism are perpetuated by under the table deals of conventional military technology now, the imagination is the limit for what havoc could be done and how quickly it could be delivered if it was freely available to those who wish to use it for their own political, religious or criminal agendas. Before such new wonders could be given to the world at large we as a human race would need to undergo dramatic life changes and be unified. This in reality isn't going to happen unless under very controlled and perhaps staged circumstances are brought into effect. I wonder then if this NWO that is being rumoured to be in the pipeline is perhaps their solution.
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby devil666 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:37 am

tuwin0 wrote:There's probably reasons based on reasons for coverups. One school of thought is that Confirming ETs & subsequently their technology in our present world climate of religious, economic and political differences / turmoil, would be akin to opening Pandora's Box.
For example; People would demand the technologies to provide the world with clean, free energy; which would reduce pollution, provide (theoretically) cheap and perhaps maintenance free commercial, transportation, industrial, agricultural, metro, rural, domestic power solutions and yes - entirely new military defence logistics that would make nuclear technology redundant. This is only what I can think of at the moment of this writing. So why not disclose. Well, despite collapsing the fossil fuel, uranium and the countless off shute dependant industrial, transportation and technology industries built on the old technologies; equating to billions of job redundancies, the real concern I would imagine would be for loss of control / regulation of the new energy based applications. Given that wars / terrorism are perpetuated by under the table deals of conventional military technology now, the imagination is the limit for what havoc could be done and how quickly it could be delivered if it was freely available to those who wish to use it for their own political, religious or criminal agendas. Before such new wonders could be given to the world at large we as a human race would need to undergo dramatic life changes and be unified. This in reality isn't going to happen unless under very controlled and perhaps staged circumstances are brought into effect. I wonder then if this NWO that is being rumoured to be in the pipeline is perhaps their solution.

Very perceptive of you and i agree we could use an energy source using our current technology. Now that would reduce our need for oil and fossil fuel by harvesting natures incredible power and that's a fact. It would result in unlimited cheap power for everyone. And I can't believe the government of this country is imposing more taxes under the guise of green house gases to fund their incompetence and add to there coffers instead of sorting out the real problem.
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby devil666 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:03 am

Guest wrote:I agree with you 100%

A new study out is showing more and more people shunning these organized religions for we as a nation are wising up to their lies, misinformation and blood thirsty ways.

Yes intelligent people can see the thinly veiled attempt to pass the bible off as "intelligent design", and to bring the world back to the days of the dark ages. When the church was king and knowledge was a sin, punishable by death.

At last we are seeing the light. I agree with you both, it's a shame you have no user name. Don't get me wrong, something happened all those eons ago. But, yet it has been twisted by ignorance and flawed stories. Because of mans advances in science these are getting disproved and they don't like it. If they had encounters back then, he would have been god to them.
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby devil666 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:20 am

richag77 wrote:
reality check wrote:Does the government's of the world cover up the UFO's, because they know the religious community would freak out and riot, because it would be another hit to their beliefs and they couldn't take the reality?

We in the USA know the religious community want to introduce "intelligent design" in lieu of true science to slow and diminish science from continuing to disprove the bible.


It seems to me that "Intelligent design" is a viable theory as to how life became here on earth but only if intelligent aliens were the designers. Actually, I could believe that more easily than the currently held theory that life evolved via natural selection from the simplest of organisms. You are probably very right in many of your assertions above but don't rule out the possibility of Intelligent design by master alien geneticists.

i think also these aliens are master of genetics and have there own agenda to suit there own needs not ours we are just a commodity for there use and a war going on between 2 factions in which we will be the losers
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby devil666 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:40 am

k19 wrote:The human species is a very violent species who paranoia is only match by that of its greed. Lets not forget that it was only three hundred years ago when we thought the world was flat and that the sun and the universe revolved around us. When we really look up into the stars and put things into perspective we can appreciate just how small and insignificant we are.

We colonize this planet and ravage its resources like locus, not giving consideration to our future generations and how they will have to live on this tiny spec of dust in a rather insignificant corner of space that is no better or worse than the vastness of the universe with no air because we have cut down the forests or food because there are just too many of us.
Yes governments cover up the truth because they know we cannot handle the truth although we think we can. We live here with our world economy and how realize just how fragile that economy is and that if we were to upset the balance then the world order would collapse. Imagine if we were to discover technology which did not use fossil fuel, this would mean that we would no longer trade with the middle east. How would they then feed their people and what do you think would happen then. Famine, war these are just some of the issues that would engulf the region and eventually the world.
Unfortunately too many people throughout history have died in the name of god whoever or what every it is, two things we do know for certain are that, God, if it exists or perhaps the nearest thing we can identify with it ‘Mother Nature’ goes about her business every moment of every day. Take care you don’t get in her way for she cares not for the color of your skin or how you worship her. She has done for millions of years and she will continue to do so long after we have managed to finally extinguish the human flame. Secondly the holy books are the word of man, written to document beliefs or stories handed down from generation to generation, adapted and then rewritten to accommodate personal beliefs. How can we believe in these books if the very people who preach the word are the same people who allow millions of their most ardent supporters to die in squalor while those who collect the proceedings live a life of luxury, abuse children and preach hatred. These same people who still today teach their followers that Adam and Eve did live with dinosaurs.

In our universe we are the new kids on the block and only just descended from the trees, wouldn’t it be fantastic if something could lead us by the hand as we would a child and help us to open our eyes and really look at what is about us. Truth is, we are ignorant and although we believe we are ready for the truth history time and time proves if we are given the truth we will exploit or manipulate it to our own advantage.

:D i am going add you to my list of friends based on this write up
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Re: Why government cover ups?

Postby devil666 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:32 pm

In our universe we are the new kids on the block and only just descended from the trees, wouldn’t it be fantastic if something could lead us by the hand as we would a child and help us to open our eyes and really look at what is about us. Truth is, we are ignorant and although we believe we are ready for the truth history time and time proves if we are given the truth we will exploit or manipulate it to our own advantage.

The picture is not as bad as it seems. As a species, we are beginning to understand the importance of sustainability. Electric cars are coming soon, reducing the dependence on oil, and technology is improving all the time. The problem is, we can hope for some aliens to come and help us, but we can't expect it - we have to sort things out ourselves. We don't even know if faster than light travel is possible - if it isn't the chances of aliens ever coming to earth are minuscule.

:D Hi fool. I have mixed feelings about electric cars as the batteries have a limited life. And what happens to all the toxins incorporated in there manufacture when scraped and carbon foot print to produce this unit. I far prefer gas cars being used at the moment. We could use all that methane released to the atmosphere causing global warming to a good use so at least reducing this green house gas. And did you know cars only emit a tiny percentage of the vast amount released into our atmosphere [fact]? Who do you think the worst offenders are ? When we had the fuel crisis i had posters made up of an alternative fuel for diesels. I placed these around fareham and gosport, visible from the road directing people to a bridgemary car boot sale for a demo. Need less to say i was a laughing stock until i placed the fuel hose into the container and ran the van on it. I covered the no plates but the police simply took it from my tax disc, custom and excise were present with there technicians examined the van and its emissions. They asked how much i was charging i said nothing it's only a demo. As he walked away he said to his colleague, if he wants to be a marta let him. I was questioned several times by individuals of significant knowledge of the subject. I was followed home and that night my van was broken into and containers were taken [any way this wonder fuel was just lowly vegetable oil ]a diesel will even run on sump oil. Anyway you are wondering where this is going. If i generated this amount of interest in something i was giving away, what's going to happen when i reveal and prove what happened to me? World war 3, i should think. And yes i know you dont believe in it, yet that night an opening appeared in front of that ship and it went though.
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