New info shows the brain does this in everyone.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/06/near-death-brain.html?campaign=w01-101-ae-0002

Do you think it could be possible to safely replicate the 'surge'?

isomer13 wrote:New info shows the brain does this in everyone.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/06/near-death-brain.html?campaign=w01-101-ae-0002

I didn't even go to the website. please explain how an nde can see what's going on in other rooms ?

isomer13 wrote:New info shows the brain does this in everyone.

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/10/06/near-death-brain.html?campaign=w01-101-ae-0002

Hey isomer13!

Very interesting article, but a little outdated. This surge has been known about for quite some time now. Check out the research of skeptic, Susan Blackmore. If I remember correctly, it was this surge which she described as the last gasp of a dying brain. Although it's quite possible this research has something new to add, I don't see it in this article.

Anyway, I gather that you already know I'm a believer in the NDE. There is far too much empirical and anecdotal evidence that this article doesn't even attempt to tackle. For example, the OBE every NDEr experiences. While I'm sure the brain may explain some aspect of the OBE (probing certain areas of the brain induces an OBE), it cannot even begin to explain how an NDEr can accurately describe events and conversations of friends and family members miles away. And as devil666 has already pointed out, it can't explain how someone undergoing an NDE can describe what took place in another room.

One example I like to use is of a bed ridden patient who insisted there was a shoe out on the ledge of her hospital room. When the attending physician and nurses looked out the window, they saw nothing. But when the patient insisted, someone went up to the roof and looked down on the ledge. Sure enough there was a shoe there, exactly as the patient described. And to make matters more interesting, it was around the corner from the window. Meaning there was no way possible for this patient to see the shoe unless she went to the roof and looked down. An impossible task for a bed ridden patient. Even if not bed ridden, what purpose would a patient have for going up to the roof?

Another example is of an individual who, while undergoing an NDE, visited their home and discovered a family member praying for their survival. Suddenly this NDEr found them-self in a vehicle with the rest of their family on the way to the hospital. This individual was able to accurately describe who stayed behind at home, what they were praying, who was in the vehicle and the conversation they had.

While these are just two examples, there is a plethora of such anecdotes in all the NDE literature. And then, of course, we have the scientific and empirical evidence of the NDE research of Dr. Kenneth Ring, Professor Emeritus of the Psychology Department at the University of Connecticut. There is also the research of the late, Dr. Elisabeth Kubler Ross, once recognized as the world's leading authority on death and dying.

I could go on but I believe it's not necessary. And while I do find this research interesting, as stated, it doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of the NDE. If you have additional evidence you would like me to consider, I would be more than happy to check it out.

Thanks for the link to the article!

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IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY

Clearly the US government knows about this and uses it for remote viewing. To make sure other nations don't get their hands on it, they employ professional 'skeptics' to try to persuade people that it isn't real. As you may know, outside the scientific community, detail isn't always noticed and so faulty ideas can spread if they are not challenged by a professional. But since all the relevant people are under the control of the government, it is nearly impossible for the public to discover the truth behind NDEs. You can rest assured that with this amazing power, world domination will follow shortly as the NWO consolidates its position.

This site will probably be shut down by the CIA soon.

Trust no one, comrades.

-Fool

Fool wrote:IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY

Clearly the US government knows about this and uses it for remote viewing. To make sure other nations don't get their hands on it, they employ professional 'skeptics' to try to persuade people that it isn't real. As you may know, outside the scientific community, detail isn't always noticed and so faulty ideas can spread if they are not challenged by a professional. But since all the relevant people are under the control of the government, it is nearly impossible for the public to discover the truth behind NDEs. You can rest assured that with this amazing power, world domination will follow shortly as the NWO consolidates its position.

This site will probably be shut down by the CIA soon.

Trust no one, comrades.

-Fool

Be assured this site is monitored, as for remote viewing i seem to remember a TV documentary about the us government using injured personnel who suffered nde and are aware our own government's use of such. Under hypnosis they act as a guide for the subject.