Au contraire my naysayer friends -- The Maya NEVER disappeared...they merely left the major cities and deposed their rulers, and lived in family and tribal groups--Just go to the Yucatan peninsula, Guatemala, and the southernmost area of Chiapas in Mexico; They still speak the Mayan language but live in poverty in isolated villages...They still practice a Catholocized version of their religion --at least to the outside world- and may even still practice it in depth in secret...
They still have the prophecies and the traditions..They did NOT disappear--they abandoned the huge cities and went back to living in the jungles in small groups, I believe there was either a famine or , like is predicted in 2012, some type of drastic environmental change which made it no longer feasible or safe to continue their culture in the current manner...If the poles do reverse and massive changes ensue in 2012--such as the collapse of world civilizations due to economic decline, anarchy, or disease, these small family groups would have made a sensible model--safety no longer in numbers, but in dispersal...
Hmm...sounds like our present situation.....

guest101 wrote:I don't see what you all are so worried about. Why would you listen to something that a group of people, who didn't even last by the way, said thousands of years ago? If they were so knowledgable then why don't we pass by them nowadays? The Mayans obviously aren't around anymore and maybe they knew they wouldn't be so why would they care to continue their calander? Maybe they realized that it was hopeless for them and they might as well stop being foolish and it just happened to be the date of December 21, 2012 when they ended it. Think about it, it's a pretty clever analysis. I say just get over it and live your life now, just incase for some strange reason that actually does end up being the end of the world...

Despite the European genocides, the Mayans are still around, including day keepers, who will tell you either that most of this 2012 stuff is simply s*** or confusion promoted by a few con artists.

Most of the folks here who buy this stuff have never even heard of a piktun, and most of the people turning out these books can not read Mayan hieroglyphic writing.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas, and
Amazing Stories - a biography of cult leader Richard Kieninger

Just because they arent around today doesnt mean anything. Something could have happened to them that was beyond their control.

ddd wrote:perhaps the calender ended on a certain date due to some belief system the Mayans had. But i don't think so. Just because one cycle of a calender ends and another begins doesn't mean something is going to happen. People get so obsessed with numbers and dates...why? 2000 was supposed to be a special date - it was a milestone, nothing more. The world changed, but it changes every single second of every single day. When my 2008 calender ended I didn't scream and run into the hills...I went and brought a 2009 calender.

So no, I don't see what people are so worried about either - superstition i think.

I don't know of a single credible spiritual people, entity, or otherwise that predicted year 2000 to be a special date other than being a milestone. I do however, know of many credible spiritual people and entities that predict 2012 to be a doomsday of sorts. The Hopi Indian tribes' prophecies mirror that of the Mayans and astrologists. Predictions from Master Simon Wong, a Feng Shui expert, predict World War 3 to come soon as do the Hopi's.

It's a mixed bag because you can't definitely say something bad is going to happen in the future because the future is not written in stone. You can gauge what might happen in the future if we continue on our current course. From my research into the matter, due to greed (and this is from the Hopi's point of view), because of our digging into the earth and removing precious materials from inside it (like coal, oil, precious rocks, minerals, and so forth), it weakens the earth's magnetic field. This has been proven by scientists since we started keeping track of the earth's magnetic field way back in the 1800's. Today it's supposedly about 10% weaker than it was back in 1850 or whenever they started keeping track.

A shift in the earth's axis could spell doom for many as it could lead to many natural disasters. It was supposedly a natural disaster (drought and famine) that befell the great Mayan civilization. Even if they could predict the drought, which I'm sure they saw coming, they couldn't do anything about it, and their world disintegrated.

If the world comes together as a whole, and stops destroying all the natural resources, our course could be reversed or at least, be ameliorated. That's why nothing is cast in stone because there's still time to fix things.

The Hopi prophesy is much scarier than the Mayan prophesy because they foretell of atomic bombs being dropped on United States. I forget how they said it, but it went something like, "he who dropped the bomb will have the bomb dropped on him" which makes sense from a karmic view because what comes around goes around. Maybe that's why we have gone ahead with our ridiculous missile shield program because there's a realization that someday a bomb is going to get dropped on us.

The point I'm making here is that this Mayan prophesy is not isolated. You have multiple peoples here who have the same prophesies. Even in Buddhist circles, WW3 is not a question of if, but when. After WW3, the great purification, it is then, that the great savior of man (predicted by all the world's great religions, including Buddhism, Christianity, the Quran, Torah, and the Hopi) will come. It's only through the great darkness that the great sage will appear. To the Hopi he is known as the Great Hope. In Buddhism he is known as Maitreya Bodhisattva. (I have no idea what he's known in the Bible, Quran, or Torah, sorry about that). Supposedly after he comes, order is restored and the world will be a great place once again, and there will be world peace.

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guest101 wrote:I don't see what you all are so worried about. Why would you listen to something that a group of people, who didn't even last by the way, said thousands of years ago? If they were so knowledgeable then why don't we pass by them nowadays? The Mayans obviously aren't around anymore and maybe they knew they wouldn't be so why would they care to continue their calendar? Maybe they realized that it was hopeless for them and they might as well stop being foolish and it just happened to be the date of December 21, 2012 when they ended it. Think about it, it's a pretty clever analysis. I say just get over it and live your life now, just in case for some strange reason that actually does end up being the end of the world...

It wasn't Just the Mayans By the way there were like 12-14 colonies on the planet and like 9 used our Time table that we use to day ( 60secs 60mins) And they all ended at that date, Scattered across the planet thousands of years ago, how could they all just stop for no apparent reason.

Would you please provide more facts and your sources as well? Information spread by "it is said" , "I heard" and so on aren't really serious. Thanks

I agree to the people out there that it's kind of scary to think about how the Mayans disappeared and if it will happen to us. But it's life so don't think about dying because no matter how old you are just have fun and we have all the technology we need "I hope so".

I don't believe it was only the Mayan's who said that this date would be something "Dire" I believe the I CHING has said something about it to.....but who knows what will happen! I sure don't, but I really don't want to believe it could be the end........ hopefully a new beginning perhaps.

Watch the movie zeitgeist it has an interesting explanation.

guest101 wrote:I don't see what you all are so worried about. Why would you listen to something that a group of people, who didn't even last by the way, said thousands of years ago? If they were so knowledgeable then why don't we pass by them nowadays? The Mayans obviously aren't around anymore and maybe they knew they wouldn't be so why would they care to continue their calendar? Maybe they realized that it was hopeless for them and they might as well stop being foolish and it just happened to be the date of December 21, 2012 when they ended it. Think about it, it's a pretty clever analysis. I say just get over it and live your life now, just in case for some strange reason that actually does end up being the end of the world...

What happened to the Mayans?

Look at history; the Spanish decided to destroy there way of life replaying them as savages.
They decided to breed them out and take there gold. Mayans today are the Mexicans and Indians of America..
They also destroyed there language and traditions. Just watch the movie apocalypto.

I don't know what happened to the Mayans, but the world is not gonna end by 2012.

An astronomer Philip Plait has stated very clearly that the Mayan calendar does not end by 2012 at all, that it is like a odometer of a car, as each section of the odometer reaches 9 and then clicks over to 0, the next number to it starts a new cycle. So that when all numbers reach 0 all the way across the odometer-the last number changes from 1 to 2 and new cycle starts all over again.