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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby Fool » Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:10 pm

:D
You cracked me up a bit there. You accuse me of not paying attention to the grammar, then later on say:

as for us, the Galaxy, moving away from everything. Try studying your facts, the Milky Way is in fact moving towards Andromeda, and not away from it.

I wrote:most other galaxies

Believe it or not, I did put most in there for a reason... and the issue above is that you said,
To have a magnetic reversal in our current day and age? It would reverse compasses and possibly reverse the electrons and neutrons in every electric circuit

I'm sorry if it offends you, but if you write something like that, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Now, I'm not an expert, but I'm also not spreading random theories about without scientific backing.
Fact is, the alignment with the Galactic Elliptic is a proven event, and it will take place.

I'm sure engineerretired would be happy repeat himself yet again about this... :roll:
EDIT: No, wait, he already has.
As for the black hole in the centre of the galaxy (it's not that theoretical...), yes, it plays a part. Not a terribly big one, though.
The gravity of the rest of the galaxy plays a very, very small part on us. It is simply too far away to have much of an effect. Our closest star is about 4 light years away. And 4 light years is pretty damned far. IIRC, black holes at the centre of galaxies are usually about 3-4% of the total mass of the galaxy. I might be wrong about that, though.
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby 2012 is not the end » Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:38 pm

This is not the end, God gives us all a sign about if we're going to die or not..
So believe in god and he will be with you. :|
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby bmcginnis07 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:31 am

No one can say with absolute certainty one way or the other.
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby Fool » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:19 pm

No one can say anything with absolute certainty.
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby devil666 » Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:37 am

Fool wrote:No one can say anything with absolute certainty.

I don't think the world will end in 2012 yet place it might much later. Or i could be the dark one and lying to you. We will all find out when 2012 comes and goes. :twisted:
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby MzMer » Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:08 pm

How can Science say otherwise when the bible specifically states the below parable:

"But of that day or hour, no one knows, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be watchful! Be alert! You do not know when the time will come." (Mark 13:32-33)

Jesus told us in no uncertain terms that we were not to know when the end of the world would come but that we should always to be ready.



If someone can shed some light on the matter; if many are so positive about this...why weren't we told about this back in the 1930s, 1950s, 1970s, 1990s -
I just wonder... did someone just assume this would be the end because they thought they figured out a code or something - oh wait - because the calendar date ended... maybe it's just a new beginning. Just another clean sweep that GOD is doing so humanity can just love - the way he loves. It's a shame - we're all reflections of GOD; all he ever wanted was for the world to love and live in peace. Too many of our old leaders were too selfish and self centered that they wanted to control everything... life is given as a gift - enjoy it, treasure it... because we are all just on borrowed time!
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby Fool » Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:37 am

How can Science say otherwise when the bible specifically states the below parable:

To me, science > the bible. Science, or the scientific method, is our main tool for finding out more about this universe. The bible is a book which even if you believe in it can be misinterpreted.
Fortunately, 'science' doesn't say the end of the world is coming.
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby Killz » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:28 pm

vesh wrote:This is not just another thread based on the authors opinion but stuff gained from sources.

First off, notice how pretty much all the sites claiming that the world will end in 2012 want you to either buy dvd's from them or books or t shirts? Notice how unprofessional some of these sites look? Notice how they got ads, example Google ads so if you click on them, they earn more money? All these sites are part of the 2012 business, they are using the 2012 topic to take your money! And the ones with the clearly amateur looking sites are clearly not the kind of people you should be listening to on such a subject. Should you listen to me? Well you don't have to, however, notice that sites that say the world won't end in 2012 include sites from actual scientists and such and how they're not asking for your money and how it actually is a professional looking site? Well these are where my sources have come from, so listen to me, from them


THE MAYAN CALENDAR
The 13th Baktun ends on the 21/12/2012 (in case anyone thinks I wrote that date wrong, I'm from Australia and we write the day the month then year) Quite true indeed. Does this mean the world will end on that date? NO. Why not, how would I know?
Here's something that all these money making websites don't tell you and that many of you, probably all don't even know. There are dates on the Mayan calender that go to the year 4772 on the Gregorian Calendar (our 365 day a year calendar) that is nearly 3,000 years away! Why don't any of these doomsday sites mention this date? It's simple, because if they do, they know that people will think "well if there's dates from nearly 3,000 years away then the world isn't ending in 2012, I'm not gonna buy a dvd from this site telling me the world will end in 2012 when the calendar continues for so much longer".
The date to be exact is October 21st, 4772. So as you may have seen on some other sites, the Mayan calendar simply starts again and rolls on into it's next cycle (a certain amount of baktuns fit into 1 piktun) just like how 2008 just finished and rolled into 2009. This date in 4772 also happens to be a very significant date for Mayans. A Mayan King (or something like a King) "Pacal The Great" who died around 1.5 thousand years ago actually predicted that this date will the be the the 80th calendar round since he became the king/leader of a Mayan group. he said this so long ago, when Mayans would've known a lot more about 2012 than what we do now and he never mentioned anything about the world ending in 2012, just this anniversary on October 21st, 4772.

THE BIBLE CODE
I can't believe how anyone believers in the so called "Bible Code".
Firstly, in the Bible Jesus clearly says that no man, none of the Angels in Heaven and not even Jesus himself knows when the end will come, only God knows. Now who would you believe, Jesus, or some person making money off books from a so called code?
The Bible code is worked out by a computer system, you can type in anything and any type of pattern will come up with words regarding to whatever event you typed in.
The things that the Bible code has gotten "right" are things that everyone knew had happened, things from years ago, there are called post dictions, opposite to predictions, for people to believe that is just well :/
The Bible code predicted that there would be a massive nuclear war from the end of 2005 to the end of 2006. One of many predictions that has never happened..........
here is a quick video from an Australian TV show which COMPLETELY debunks the bible code, they even get "codes" from the lyrics off a vanilla ice song HAHAHAHA -




GALACTIC ALIGNMENT
First off, NASA has said there will be no galactic alignment in 2012 or any year (I will write further down about trusting NASA/Government) 2nd of all, the galactic alignment end of world theory has been used in the past for predictions of the end of the world. One time this was suppose to happen was in 1982. The world was meant to be doomed. Well it's 27 years later and earth looks fine to me. This theory is just one of many being used for 2012, simply because people THINK the Mayan calendar ends then is why all these theories are around

NIBIRU/PLANET X
NASA has said this is not true, it is an internet hoax. If it were true, do you know how many amateur science people would have spotted this by now? If we are suppose to be able to see it with our eyes soon then amateur astronomers or whatever they are called should have been able to spot it from a few years ago and this would be major world news. Well sorry for you Nibiru believers but nothing has been spotted.
Did you know that a theory of Nibiru started by a "psychic" said it was suppose to ruin us all back in 2003? Well this never happened, and like I said above, just one of many past theories being used for people to make money on 2012

ASTEROIDS
Once again from NASA, there's no asteroids heading this way in 2012. The closest year where an asteroid has been put as a risk factor is 2036, but even that has something like a 1 in 400 000 chance of colliding.
If there was a comet coming in 2012, we would've known about this years ago

TRUSTING NASA
Ok now, there's probably a few people here who say things along the lines of "how can you trust NASA if they said the world would end in 2012 imagine all the chaos it would cause". Well let me tell you something. NASA has told us about the 2036 asteroid, they even originally thought it could be a danger in 2014 and released this news to the world. What I am trying to say here is that NASA DO warn us YEARS in advance when there is a potential threat to earth. So if anything was suppose to happen in 2012, we would have known about this 5-10+ years ago, a time too long before the year 2012 that there would be no mass panic on earth, a great time for NASA to release the news if there was suppose to be any, but there never was.
So yeah, for people saying they wouldn't tell us now because of all the panic and chaos it would cause, we would've been told years ago if anything were too happen, just like we have been told with asteroids.
Also, if the government wanted to hide this "truth" from us, then why aren't they using their powers to ban all the 2012 sites that millions of people are visiting? Why aren't they using their powers to stop the production of the 2012 movie that millions of people will see? Simple answer, because they know it isn't true.


Exactly! I knew the world would never end! All these idiots out there are like "Hey! Guess what? God has sent sin upon you! YOU WILL DIE IN 2012 BECAUSE WE SAY SO! SUCKS FOR YOU AND ME! AH, HA HAHA HA!!". But that is just some phony balony. I don't believe in God. And I know, this has nothing to do with the fact of the "Nibiru".

So, yes. Actually, I saw on the website of NASA, they say "The world will not end." That's obviously proof, right?

Yeah, see you in 2013. :lol:
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby Dan » Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:26 pm

I don't really believe all this crap..i've been reading about this a bit...but i read this about our planet passing through the galactic equator before and it might prove something...its copied and pasted as it is.. :

"Fyi, this belief isn’t only favoured by those who believe in Nibiru/Planet X
But also by people who believe that our solar system will be passing through the center of the milky way.

By center of the milky way what they actually mean is the galactic equator or plane.

And as you know, water swirls counter clockwise in a sink under our equator and clockwise above.

So the same concept is what’s at play. The passing through the galactic equator is what is going to cause our magnetic field to flip."


Well he has a point...and to what extent is our planet passing through the Galactic equator and the galactic alignment theories true??

An answer to that can prove to me that the 2012 theory is a total hoax...Thanks a lot :)
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Re: The world WON'T end in 2012

Postby engineerretired » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:04 pm

To Dan:

The sciences of astronomy and astrophysics tell us that the Sun crossed the galactic plane about
three million years ago and is still moving AWAY from it. The Sun and the rest of the Solar System will
not cross the plane of the galaxy for another 30 million years.

This plane crossing thing seems to be the result of serious misinterpretation of the Mayan calendar. It has
absolutely no basis in fact.

Don't take my word for it. Do a search on galactic plane crossing. Be careful, because there lots of
pseudoscience and nutcase websites out there. But there quite a few legitimate astronomy sites
containing real science which will confirm what I have posted above.

The 2012 theory IS a total hoax. You have nothing to fear.

By the way, this thing about water swirling one way north of the equator and the other way south is
also incorrect. The Coriolis force works on a very large scale like the atmosphere, but not in your
bathtub. It's an urban myth.


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