I wrote:this is all a joke...only god knows when the end will happen....

Correction: "gods" know nothing, but God knows all.

Only god nos wen it's gonna happen....but if it so happens to be 2012wen it does...so be it embrace death it was gods plan for us...I admit I will be scared wen it happens but I will try with all my mite to embrace it

First of all nobody knows what will happen on that date. As far as I know, I will be getting ready for the week-end because it's a Friday. Listen, The end of the world as we know it, COMES EVERYDAY for somebody. They never know when it comes and neither do these people who think or say they do. There are alot of people (GREEDY PEOPLE) out there that would love to make money on this prediction, and they do. This prediction of the end of time has been going on for ages and yet we are still here. Look at the latest scheme that has just been proven a DECEPTION. Al Gore and his global warming nonsense. Whats the temperature outside right now? COLD.. Huh? He has made a ton of money and also got a Nobel Prize for it. Just shows you that if you have money and a loud voice (meaning MEDIA CONNECTIONS to reach millions) you have the ability to control and scare people. DECEPTION by your so-called leaders is what you should be worried about. They like to be called your servant...Ha..What a joke! Since when does a SERVANT make more than the people they serve? Have faith in God, (NOT in man, for they have other interests) Do the best you can everyday and I'm sure you will be fine.

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Guy wrote:All the the Mayans were talking about was the end of a cycle or time period. I predict that after the end of this year, Dec 31, 2009 that something is going to happen. The Mayans, who were a savage people who sacrificed thousands of people to various gods that are not real does not sound like a very advanced people to me. All this stuff about 2012 is utter nonsense!

Actually Guy the Mayans did not participate in human sacrifice. When the Spanish came to the new world it was the Aztecs that they encountered that sacrificed so many to appease their gods. We know very little about the Mayans because a lot of their records were engraved into gold tablets which were seized by the greedy spanish conquistidores and melted down. So much of their history was lost due to the greed of the Spanish Empire. A great deal of the mayan temples and cities were built before or at the time of Christ so there is a thousand years or more between the time of the the mayans (who inexplicablly disappeared) and the bloody Aztec empire. Please get your facts straight before adding to the confusion that disinformation or misinformation can cause.

The biblical timeline of history shows that creation occurred 11,013 BC and the great flood of Noah’s day occurred 4990 BC. Noah was given a 7 day warning, then GOD
shut the Ark’s door and destroyed life on earth.

From a previous post, 1 day = 1000 years and 7 days = 7000 years.

4990 BC + 7000 years = 2010 and 2010 + 1 (no year 0) = 2011

2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

Deu 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Deu 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Izzy_Skaria wrote:You make a very good point. I've believed for some time that a lot of what many scriptures say is laid down as a metaphor, a message relayed that could be understood in full if it were looked into further. I'm actually currently working on a top secret project of my own, I won't disclose much in fear of being plagiarised but I can disclose it may be able to solve two of our world's most major problems, both of which are a catalyst of the other...

Thats lame, if you have some kind of answer you should share it rather than gloat about being right once its too late, in the unlikely event of everything going bang all at once.

PheonixTheLion wrote:Actually Guy the Mayans did not participate in human sacrifice.

Actually, Phoenix, the Maya did practice human sacrifice.

PheonixTheLion wrote: When the Spanish came to the new world it was the Aztecs that they encountered that sacrificed so many to appease their gods.

Actually, Phoenix, during the Conquest the Aztec were sacrificing human captives to their god of war

PheonixTheLion wrote: We know very little about the Mayans because a lot of their records were engraved into gold tablets which were seized by the greedy spanish conquistidores and melted down.

The Maya used books (codices), stones, pottery, and painted walls for their writing, not gold tablets.

PheonixTheLion wrote:So much of their history was lost due to the greed of the Spanish Empire.

The Catholic priests burned the Mayan hieroglyphic books, but some survived in translation in the Books of the Chilam Balam and in other works.

PheonixTheLion wrote:A great deal of the mayan temples and cities were built before or at the time of Christ so there is a thousand years or more between the time of the the mayans (who inexplicablly disappeared) and the bloody Aztec empire.

Actually, Phoenix, Maya were living at the time of the Aztec empire, and are alive today, for that matter. While many classic Maya cities declined about 600-400 years before the Aztec (Mexica) showed up in the Valley of Mexico, other Mayan cities were thriving in the Yucatan during the height of Aztec power.

And there were more peoples than just the Maya and Mexica. The Itza, for example.

PheonixTheLion wrote:Please get your facts straight before adding to the confusion that disinformation or misinformation can cause.

A very good idea, Phoenix. The people who are earning money in the 2012 industry rely on people's lack of knowledge, and use disinformation and misinformation to make money.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas
you can get it at amazon, or read it free through interlibrary loan

Well Mr. Grondine I am glad someone knows their history. and by the way I wasn't refering to the mayans as they were when the Spanish got there I was refering to the Mayans as they were when their civilisation began. At the height of their power if you will. The great cities of the Mayans were built long before all the tribes and nations of the Yucatan Peninsula had degenerated into bloodthirsty savages. Those are times I speak when I say that so much of their history was lost. If you have more than just one book and or point of view to expouse then I would love to recieve the bibliography at my Email aarondaniels76aug@yahoo.com. I dont like looking a fool and I should have been more specific about the time frame to which I was refering but I figured that it would have been implied when I mentioned the time of Christ.

PheonixTheLion wrote:Well Mr. Grondine I am glad someone knows their history.

Yes, it is indeed fortunate someone knows their history, as that is about the only way the soul suckers of the 2012 industry will be stopped. With history, including their own - once properly exposed, they'll be seen exactly for what they are.

PheonixTheLion wrote:and by the way I wasn't refering to the mayans as they were when the Spanish got there I was refering to the Mayans as they were when their civilisation began. At the height of their power if you will. The great cities of the Mayans were built long before all the tribes and nations of the Yucatan Peninsula had degenerated into bloodthirsty savages.

Actually, Phoenix, some Maya cities were built well after the classical period, and just prior to Spanish arrival. The Maya never "degenerated into blood-thirsty savages", and were at the point of abandoning their very rare human sacrifice when blood thirsty savages, the Spanish conquistadors, showed up.

PheonixTheLion wrote: Those are times I speak when I say that so much of their history was lost. If you have more than just one book and or point of view to expouse then I would love to recieve the bibliography at my Email aarondaniels76aug@yahoo.com.

Sorry, Aaron, but I do have one point of view, a point of view which corresponds to reality; my reporting is known among some people for its lethal accuracy. You can read some of it via the links over in the member's profile section.

As I gifted copies of my book "Man and Impact in the Americas" to major libraries, you can read it for free via interlibrary loan, and then read the works cited there. While it lacks a bibliography as I was hit by a stroke after I finished the manuscript for it, nearly all works used were fully cited. One of the real faults with the book due to my stroke is the lack of citations to all surviving Mayan written works, which I read.

PheonixTheLion wrote: I dont like looking a fool and I should have been more specific about the time frame to which I was refering but I figured that it would have been implied when I mentioned the time of Christ.

Someone once said that it is better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. At the time of Christ many of the Maya in their northern areas had not yet fully adopted or implemented the technologies seen in the classical period, which really blossomed several hundred years later in those areas.

Get thee to a library, or amazon.

E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas, and
Amazing Stories - a guide inside the fringe

did any one ever stop to think, it is not the end of the world, but the end of what we know? everyone is basing it off of someones interpretation of what nostradamus wrote. how many times have these people intreprtated or translated incorrectly? i was taught christopher columbus discovered america. i was taught 666 was the devil, but that was translated incorrectly. think about it, everything is based off of interpretations. maybe it will be the end of the world, because all you yahoo's will make it happen. come the date 12-21-2012, what is going to happen? what do people do when they fear the worst? PANIC maybe it will be the end of what we know; technology, running water, electricity, transportation, anything and everything we have come to rely on. maybe we are way over due for a reality check. get back in touch with the earths energy and give back to her. i don't know, im no expert and will never claim to know what it all means, but open your minds a little. the world is a lot bigger than you think.