ljc wrote:The religious cult spirit in the spirit is a fallen angel which look like a white serpent or snake which needs to be clean on the out side and unclean heart on the inside.

ljc, please use punctuation when you are saying things like that. To borrow someone else's phrase, "It's raping my eyes".

The Catholic Church may have sanctioned the Nazi but never followed the ways of the church, to the ways the church is set up, But in ways more political than spiritual. Hitler murdered thousands of Christians, Jews,and other ethnic groups. The church Hitler went to was a cult rejection of the truth of Christ. The Catholic Church is not a cult church the foundation of the catholic faith is blessed by heaven and encouraged to grow more by heaven. Where this part of the 2012 forum on Religion is a religion, there are more religious humanists here than people who believe the truth. Humanism is a religion that rejects Religion and spends their days talking about not believing in religion.

quix wrote:i call for all religious people to answer why do you believe in god.
what do you get out of it. bring me some sort of understanding.

Do you believe in God?
If not, why? Do you get anything out of not believing in God? If I told you why I believe in God, what difference would it make to you? Why do you care what I believe, and even more why in the world would you want to know "what I get out of it." Would any answer matter?

Bassman3223 wrote:

quix wrote:i call for all religious people to answer why do you believe in god.
what do you get out of it. bring me some sort of understanding.

Just for the record , I find it a valid question quix.

Bassman3223 on the otherhand ......

Bassman3223 wrote:Do you believe in God?

I don't really think he fully gets it,"religious people to answer why do you believe in god"indicates where the question comes from.
He just immediately begins with a question, not even using it as a preface for a more in depth answer, observation or opinion,becaauuse.. the barrage continues.....

Bassman3223 wrote:If not, why?

The second time he considers a question an answer.

Bassman3223 wrote:Do you get anything out of not believing in God?

3rd...Maybe that was why quix asked.

Bassman3223 wrote:If I told you why I believe in God, what difference would it make to you?

4th...It might make a huge difference,a chance for you to share your faith, to testify.

Bassman3223 wrote:Why do you care what I believe,

5th...Read the question.I thought it was clear.

Bassman3223 wrote:and even more why in the world would you want to know "what I get out of it."

6th...Read the question....is it that he really just can't answer or consider it...or understand it?

Bassman3223 wrote:Would any answer matter?

7th...Sure it would,and you gave a reason quix,pretty clear to me.

quix wrote:bring me some sort of understanding.

You didn't get an answer quix...I imagine you suspect the answer.
Classic Christian response btw, answer questions with questions, and consider that an answer.I find it a tactic that lets them avoid the question , and when they don't get a response, they can pat themselves on the back and feel they actually responded.

I enjoy the opportunity to answer any question concerning atheism.....

Epic Fail, they throw away an opportunity to possibly offer a unique personal view,giving insight about their religion by answering a question concerning it.

It also makes it appear they really can't answer it either,ultimately.

This really is a sore point with me I'll admit,and over the years and in many discussions , it seems rampant within christian circles.

isomer13 wrote:

Bassman3223 wrote:

quix wrote:i call for all religious people to answer why do you believe in god.
what do you get out of it. bring me some sort of understanding.

Just for the record , I find it a valid question quix.

Bassman3223 on the otherhand ......

Bassman3223 wrote:Do you believe in God?

I don't really think he fully gets it,"religious people to answer why do you believe in god"indicates where the question comes from.
He just immediately begins with a question, not even using it as a preface for a more in depth answer, observation or opinion,becaauuse.. the barrage continues.....

Bassman3223 wrote:If not, why?

The second time he considers a question an answer.

Bassman3223 wrote:Do you get anything out of not believing in God?

3rd...Maybe that was why quix asked.

Bassman3223 wrote:If I told you why I believe in God, what difference would it make to you?

4th...It might make a huge difference,a chance for you to share your faith, to testify.

Bassman3223 wrote:Why do you care what I believe,

5th...Read the question.I thought it was clear.

Bassman3223 wrote:and even more why in the world would you want to know "what I get out of it."

6th...Read the question....is it that he really just can't answer or consider it...or understand it?

Bassman3223 wrote:Would any answer matter?

7th...Sure it would,and you gave a reason quix,pretty clear to me.

quix wrote:bring me some sort of understanding.

You didn't get an answer quix...I imagine you suspect the answer.
Classic Christian response btw, answer questions with questions, and consider that an answer.I find it a tactic that lets them avoid the question , and when they don't get a response, they can pat themselves on the back and feel they actually responded.

I enjoy the opportunity to answer any question concerning atheism.....

Epic Fail, they throw away an opportunity to possibly offer a unique personal view,giving insight about their religion by answering a question concerning it.

It also makes it appear they really can't answer it either,ultimately.

This really is a sore point with me I'll admit,and over the years and in many discussions , it seems rampant within christian circles.

isomer13 don't be to sore about what we all type here!
in the end we all come to our senses, and we know what is right.
i myself was confused and destructive on all religions.
news and radio have clouded my mind with hate.
but i have learned something about god
i would trust my life with him knowing he is good part of me
than soaking up all the bad.
better to have something good to look up to than
negative TV and radio influences.

you will got to hell for saying that, don't you read the bible

Guest wrote:you will got to hell for saying that, don't you read the bible

Not everyone in the world is a Christian.

Religion is just a lack of knowledge!
Men "believe" what they don't understand!

As simple as that.

Religion is the biggest killer..every war that has existed is related to religion....middle east war....Ireland...Islamic wars.....even Hitler......all of them were religion wars......It's just an excuse to cause wars ..total rubbish and I don't believe in it !!!

people kill people because they don't like their religion or because their religion is spreading fast.
and most of the people who start the war have no religion >>and i don't mean you people.
you are kind and good but some of the people who have religion and don't have one, try to kill the people from the other religion to stop it ((and that is so wrong)).

and the religion of mine and i think lot of religions dislike wars and killing people, but people are people and they will still hate each other for nothing. we are killing ourselves for nothing.

as the prophet Mohamed said ((all people are the same there is no difference between black or white whatever you were from, the only different is by being god or evil)) so we are all humans.
not like Jews say that they are humans and we are all animals. god bring us to serve them ((WHAT??)) they can kill anyone they want but no one can kill them ???

and god knows that, and he said in the quran((Because of that We ordained for the people of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!.

i call for all religious people to answer why do you believe in god.
what do you get out of it. bring me some sort of understanding.

we believe in god because he told us to, he sent his messengers to tell us about him from Adam .........Moses, Jesus and finally Mohamed, and if you asked why did god send so many messengers i will tell you :
1- because the unbelievers killed a lot of those messengers and most of those messengers were sent to Israel
2- life style changed and in every time he make changes to Compatibility with our life style, like before Mohamed, when people prayed they must pray in Temple or church or mosque, but now we can pray anywhere we want, and before the they fast, they might fast for 21 hours and if they forgot to eat on the time they kept fasting tell the next day. but that changed, now we only fast for 12 hours. i think fasting is good for the stomach, because it works every day and it can't have a rest so fasting will help with that and second it helps us to know how the hungry, poor people feel like. because they stay hungry more than 15 hours.
and what we get out of it is we feel comfortable and when we ask god something (Reasonable:not like you ask i wanna fly) he makes it for us. and if you said i asked god for something but he didn't make it for me, then god is testing you to see if you go and Abandon him or if you will still believe in him.
and god will test his people to see who have a big faith in him

see if you believe in god and there was no god you wouldn't lose anything.
but if you didn't believe in god and there was a god then you will lose a lot.


any one of you who have some question i will be glad to answer it, if i know the answer. so just ask

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