Hey Aufluschluss, Forgive me for saying it, but you are off kilter. The fact that you breath is not a good reason to boast that you are an atheist. For you to claim to be an atheist, ( MAY 16, 2009 ) is to claim that you don't exist, and therefore your own words say you are not thinking clearly. You talk about satan as if you recognize his actions, yet you fail to see that if there is evil, then there is Godliness. Saying that you are an atheist, is an excuse to ignore that GOD is present in YOUR life. By the way, I or by any other means, any True Christian, will never be able to tell you atheists "I Told You So". Scripture tells us that we will be raptured when HE ( Christ ) appears and therefore we will not be around to see you crumble under your own IGNORANCE.
What nonsense are you thinking? In believing that you will be on the side lines to see GOD crush satan. Wake up !!! It is you HE will be dealing with FIRST while satan is chained for 1000 years. What makes you think that satan will be fighting a GOD, and you will be fighting no god? It seems to me, that satan sold you a front line ticket to the fight of the century, and he forgot to tell you that you in the front as a piece of bait which he uses to call the LION OF JUDA onto the battle field, and not on the front row of expectators. So HAHA, guess what? You need to apply yourself and use that brain. The Joke is on YOU. Oh, by the way, GOD will kill the expectators too, because they do nothing for HIS Kingdom, and encourage violence for their amusement. Yes, satan will probably not crush you YET, but he can use you for his attempt to take on GOD. satan can KILL you physically ONLY. But satan is not the problem. Your logic is your own problem. Your problem is that GOD is who (you) will be going up against because you bought the ticket to get into the battle field and did not buy GOD's ticket to be behind him, when he crushes the dragon.
Hello, Hello, you are standing between two forces which are about to battle each other, get out of the way, and stop thinking that you are not the problem. HE (Christ) is who can destroy you physically and spiritually, and that is what's up with that! Christians take no joy in seeing anyone be destroyed, otherwise they will also not enter heaven. The reason we voice ourselves so strongly, is because we hurt and despair when we see that our brothers and sisters perish from lack of instruction when they are so lost. That is how you know who is a true Christian. Many do evil in the name of Christianity, but they are NOT Christians, so don't allow them to mislead you with their words and actions. What makes you think that GOD sits and watches while many die in his name? Have you also failed to see that CHRIST left GOD's side at GOD's throne, and subjected HIMSELF to being human, so that HE could take away our excuses for not following HIM? Did HE not pay on the cross for you and me by HIS suffering, and bought us with HIS own blood so that we would be cleansed from sin, and be acceptable creatures, worthy of entering heaven? Can't you see that GOD HIMSELF, suffered from heaven, when Christ called HIS name on the cross? Have you not heard that the Roman Centurion at the crucifiction, heard the thunder, saw the lightning, and felt the earth shake because heaven was anguished when Christ suffered in torture. Have you not been told that GOD's son chose to become flesh just so that HE could hold your hand? Do you not recognize, just how special you are to HIM? Have you not read, that you are that last man described in the supposition which LOT asked the angels about, when the destruction of Sadom and Gamora was about to come? or that you are the lost sheep Christ has been looking for? Have you failed to feel the warmth of HIS hand on your face, when he sees you each morning? Has HE not fed you with herbs, spices, bread, or corn, which he prepared for you through another persons hands, months before you needed such nourishment?
What has satan done for you lately? or for that matter, what have you done for yourself which does not encompass something which GOD made? Has mother nature spoken without GOD's authority and yielded its fruit for you on its own? Has any buddha made of stone or wood or even satan, sacrificed himself, in order to redeem a bunch of sinners? Will you allow the stones to praise GOD, as they screech across the surface of the earth, or will you fail utter your love for HIM and fail to grasp your inheritance ? Have you allowed the pollution of misinformation that exists around you, to cloud your judgment? Collect your thoughts, and focus on seeing the true GOD. HE has been knocking at your door and you have not let HIM in. How do you expect HIM to dine with you, and for HIM to be your friend and savior, if you ignore the doorbell. Do you treat your family and friends like that? Stop hurting yourself by labeling yourself an atheist. Have you failed to see that even satan knows there is a GOD who is worthy of imitating? Give your front line Ticket to GOD who already paid for it, and get your act in line with HIM. He is coming, and he has been waiting for all of us to choose and hopefully take HIS side. There is no time for further nonsense, since HE is about to come and gather HIS people. Can't you see, that the CREATOR of the UNIVERSE is extending HIS hands with love to you, just so that you will be with HIM in paradise? GOD loves you.

Dear Watchman45,

You claim that I cannot not comprehend evil without being godly, and yet I believe it is you who is ignorant (with all due respect). I can comprehend evil and morality, and yet I do so on the basis that I am a good person, that I respect others based on my own free will. I do not require the belief of a higher being or fear of a satanic being to form what I believe to be good or evil. I do so based on respect for those around me and a belief that what I do is right. You say you do so based on what your god wants you to do, on what you have been told to believe. Which of us has the stronger convictions? My morality is based on rational thought, and the strength to do what is right without the fear of eternal suffering in an afterlife. What I do in on this planet defines me, yes, but I refuse to have what I do defined by a book.

I am an atheist because I do not believe that a higher being created us. I find it to be the height of arrogance that people believe that man was made in the image of an infallible, omniscient being. What I believe in is the beauty of life; the beauty of nature, the beauty of what I am and the beauty of peoples ability to think for themselves. How can you look at the world around you and believe that it was all constructed just for your own satisfaction? Gifted to your being and to do with as you will?

I have no wish to change your beliefs, to alter what you believe is right. If you live a life that respects others, I have no quarrel with that. I only wish for you to see my viewpoint, my belief, that there is no afterlife, that what I do now on this earth does not gain me entrance to an afterlife, and I do not wish that it will. I am satisfied in the life I have led so far and the view that I have seen the incredible beauty that the world has to offer.

Regards,

Aufschluss

Guest wrote:Dear Watchman45,

You claim that I cannot not comprehend evil without being godly, and yet I believe it is you who is ignorant (with all due respect). I can comprehend evil and morality, and yet I do so on the basis that I am a good person, that I respect others based on my own free will. I do not require the belief of a higher being or fear of a satanic being to form what I believe to be good or evil. I do so based on respect for those around me and a belief that what I do is right. You say you do so based on what your god wants you to do, on what you have been told to believe. Which of us has the stronger convictions? My morality is based on rational thought, and the strength to do what is right without the fear of eternal suffering in an afterlife. What I do in on this planet defines me, yes, but I refuse to have what I do defined by a book.

I am an atheist because I do not believe that a higher being created us. I find it to be the height of arrogance that people believe that man was made in the image of an infallible, omniscient being. What I believe in is the beauty of life; the beauty of nature, the beauty of what I am and the beauty of peoples ability to think for themselves. How can you look at the world around you and believe that it was all constructed just for your own satisfaction? Gifted to your being and to do with as you will?

I have no wish to change your beliefs, to alter what you believe is right. If you live a life that respects others, I have no quarrel with that. I only wish for you to see my viewpoint, my belief, that there is no afterlife, that what I do now on this earth does not gain me entrance to an afterlife, and I do not wish that it will. I am satisfied in the life I have led so far and the view that I have seen the incredible beauty that the world has to offer.

Regards,

Aufschluss

Aufschluss, My main question for you is what is good enough? What makes your standard of right and wrong the truth? Maybe we should do away with our justice systems and rely on our own morale codes <Thinking about it you are probably right though it would be easier to justify my own actions w/o having to answer to anyone>. Believing that Jesus is exactly who He says He is, Is not the same as being told what to believe. Free will is a God given gift, that was given so we wouldn't be mindless robots. Salvation does not depend on "How good a person we are". How many people have you heard admit they are evil, or a rotten person.There are thousands of people in prison that think they are "good" people that they just made a mistake. On the other side there are thousands and thousands of people going to church every week that by worldly standards would be considered 'bad". Nobody and I mean nobody, not priests, not popes, not Billy Graham, Not mother Theresa, nobody according to the Bible is good enough for the kingdom of heaven. Again, salvation isn't based on how good we are or how well we treat people. We can not judge people on how good or bad they are,<including ourselves>. I know a lot of people that claim to be Christians that don't have the same positive outlook of the world you do. We should enjoy the beauty around us, We should respect others and we should think for ourselves. A true Christian isn't trying to change your beliefs. A true Christian is trying to save you. The same way you would "probably" save a small child from drowning if were to see one, or if you were walking down the street and you saw a friend about to get hit by a car.

In fact, it sounds like very few of your beliefs are any different than that which the Bible teaches. Your self righteous attitude is the only thing you will have to answer for. God does love you, God gave you your free will, God gave you your intelligence, God gave you your good conscience. Look at it this way, if your way of thinking is correct then we all will go through life the way we are ,some will be bad, some will be good, some will enjoy life and all that is in it, some will go through life miserable etc.. but in the end we will all be worm food and none of this will matter. But if Jesus is right and He is the Way the Truth, and the Life, what will we ALL gain or lose. Good luck with that.. out

All of you are wrong there's no such thing as the anit-christ, in order for that to be true Christianity has to be real and it's not. Think for yourselves for once and stop doing what everybody tells you to. And for your info Ronald Reagan was loved by everyone ( dope dealer gun runner politician alike ) my goodness.

OBAMA is not the ANTI-Christ. Obama is a Christian, raised by Christians and has been involved in the Christian church for years. Anti-Christ means against the Christian religion. Even the Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet from God. So they do believe in his holiness but don't exactly believe he was the son but that's not part of their religion. It's the Jews that don't believe in Jesus nothing against the Jews I love them dearly. And for all those non-believers, even though the story seems to repeat itself outside the bible reality and is told in many countries that predates the bible doesn't that only give more credence that this very powerful person existed with these ideals and course of events. As Gandhi said "The truth always lives on." If this where not true then it would not have permeated and continues to exist thought this long period of time. There is some truth to this story maybe the name is different in different countries but the idea, values, etc. The Christ consciousness is so embedded in the matrix of the world that the story has lasted for eons. There is truth here but how, when or where this happened is a mystery still to be discovered. And perhaps he takes up different names in different periods of time when we need to be reminded of the way to the truth and the light. Jesus Christ does exist even in this very moment and has transcended this world but looks down upon us at this very moment. Along with others that have served the cause of light upon this blessed beautiful world we live on.

Now if OBAMA get’s wounded, dies and then becomes another person with other ideals then I would be concerned, until then lets give him the respect and support he needs to fight this evil regime of crazy egomaniacs that are controlling the economy and the world. They don’t only exist in the U.S. they are a world wide organization. Also did anyone notice that the throne of England has a dragon on it???

According to some it was the resurrection not the crucifixion that was to be valued, so we would not fear death. This was to turn the tide of those that ruled over us humans under the threat of death, so that we would not fear death, that we live on. Those in power decided to use this religion to control, pillage, own and keep us under their servitude. Although through suffering we do learn things. Died for our sins? Where you there and did you put him up on the cross? Died so that we would wake up! What of the crusades how many people where killed in the name of Jesus Christ??? That was not Christian totally against the teachings of Jesus Christ even in accordance with your bible. So what gave the Catholic Church the right to kill so many - perhaps the Catholic church is against Christ. After all isn't the anti-Christ supposed to come from Rome or take his position in Rome? Many forget that they sided with Hitler.

Jesus was a radical in his day not with the main stream thinking - there are many of you today that would put him up on the cross again because he didn't think along the lines of the norm - the very Christians today would persecute him because they are so brainwashed with dogma and haven't jumped out of the box to view all this from a place in their own soul and knowingness. I'm not saying abandon religion I'm saying come on have compassion for others and use your heart and soul to make a determination of what is really going on here. Use your own interpretations not what you have been brainwashed to believe but what is truly being said here.

For those that don't think that a person can not know events that will occur and only God knows??? If someone knows then God made them aware of it for a reason. As there have been prophets throughout time. Time is not linear, all time simultaneously exist but I believe the future can be changed or there are alternative futures depending on what we do now. There are many of us that are tuned into different world events that we have premonitions about what’s going to happen and they are documented. How arrogant to think that God would not still have his chosen people to speak the message throughout time. I for one believe that John of Revelations is Nostradamus reincarnated. If you read revelations it says that he will do this again. I know that's outrageous but I had that feeling come to me when I read that in revelations. And for those that don't believe in reincarnation, almost all the places where that were mentioned in the bible where voted out of the bible by Constanopole, voted out by one vote. Don't believe me do the research!

What of the statement from Jesus "These things I do you can do also."(New Testament). This talks of our own divinity are abilities to become like him, if we are taught that he is the only one. How can we reach that high to become like him in our quest for salvation? Where is forgiveness that was taught by this great being practiced today by the Christians today? Where do we draw the line of tolerance and dignity of others in this so called Christian reality that we are practicing today? What of those that want to create the holy war just so Christ will come back; this is true for some in Christianity, Islam & Jewish religions wanting to make the Holy War. Isn’t this a little scary in that perhaps the intent here is not of the highest order, we’ll create a Holy War so Christ will come back and take us. Do you think you would be taken would this very act be considered Christian? If the war is the will of God so be it!

A true Christian isn't trying to change your beliefs. A true Christian is trying to save you. The same way you would "probably" save a small child from drowning if were to see one, or if you were walking down the street and you saw a friend about to get hit by a car.

That was well said Jesusfreak - the whole paragraph.

And there are many that think to be an Israelite is to be born or be from Israel but it is not it is a state of consciousness so I‘ve been told and you don‘t have to be Jewish either.

Our egos have become so distorted that we can’t see what’s going on here and religion has been twisted from its original intent and practice, all religions. How can someone Love God with all their might and Fear God at the same time this only creates a schism in the mind. LOVE GOD!

If an Angel of light came to you and told you or showed you what was going to occur would you believe them and if this Angel’s name was a name you never heard of and when you looked it up and saw that it was one of the highest Angel’s of God and not a fallen one. Would you believe what he showed you? I believe that some of the channels today are Fallen Angels that these Angels where bound and that they could communicate to people through there minds since their bodies where bound. And some channels are alien. OK, I admit I’m out there but I’ve never been committed to a mental facility.

And after going into the rabbits hole of the internet their was a whistle blower that mentioned that they found a cavern deep in the earth with these large people perfectly preserved that are in a sleep with bands on their ankles and wrist. And he said Wow you should see what happens to them when you take the bands off. So they have found the Fallen Angels folks (Tartantuim,sp.?), what fools to take off the bands that God had bound them with. They where bound for a good reason. You don’t have to believe a word I say but please take your heads out of the sand and start seeing things for what they are, investigate. Wake Up for God’s Sake! Stop being sheepal become a Lamb of God and not of religion but of the TRUTH.

One of the most telling pointers "vis a vis" Mr AntiChrist is the simplistic 2 dimensional approach like everything is simply Black & White when we know even if in Life's most simple positions, is just NOT so.
Suppose to indulge this most simplistic idea that Obama is Mr Antichrist who is he going to fool? Certainly Not China or India & there is nearly half of the World's population.
Mr Satan
c/ planet earth where all evil is found!

First lets understand what the word CHRIST means. It is an adjective for one in the illuminated state of aliveness that makes one a powerful magnetic force
that can survive all things but maybe getting your magnetic grid slammed so many times it looses its magnetism. The guy who cut the stones and levitated them that are made of coral in Florida was beat up and it may have shattered him for a while but he got his atomic body realigned and going again. So that's why Maximus stabbed Jesus cause a thunderstorm was building and that is the energy that makes the soul. May Magdeline knew and said Maxima he is getting his magnetic body revived and his wish was to go into the earth like the ghost dance people and be released when the planets grid expands like now. Because APOPHIS is giving it an atomic dance. He was stabbed to late and got reborn before end of days and lived through the hell created by the anti-Christ to get everyone (men ) doing sperm is it pillage and plunder type sex (not Human style) and he is so pissed off he doesn't even like people and I am the only human he knows. Jesus brothers told him he was having the world jump into an abyss. Ok. He was warned and Christians are the sheep and revelations say they will be harvested. Boy I hate plots. The never work. I created a criminal behind every Bush and the blacks have paid the highest price for this drug cult. I am pissed cause the work of Micheal Angelo was painted over to make the characters painted all look gay. Just cause they go threw the rainbow while heterosexuals have sex rape style. and Drugs are the worst killer of the soul..The heart tried to tell you 911. get that abomination of sex out before it kills you. Help free dumb.

I am a christian,& I will say this people better be ready because I do believe we are living in the last days....but, only GOD knows when the world will end...as far as Obama goes,I don't know if he is the anti-christ, but this could be the starting of it & him as president could be leading up to the anti-christ, if he isnt.

No but he sure seems like a forerunner setting up the stage.

He's the most pro-abortion president ever (and probably the most pro-abortion person ever), having no regard for human life including the unborn. He's misleading millions saying one thing but doing the total opposite. There are many web sites on his abortion policies.

He's a charmer, and a "sweet talker" (like a Snake) only saying what people want him to hear.

At a recent Catholic college all the crucifixes and statues had to be covered. He has created scandal at Notre Dame.

He "claims" to be Christian but he is acting anything but like a Christian.

I'm sure many of you can quote chapter and verse better than I can see why he's so evil.

Maybe 2012 will be the year instead of some catastrophic disaster we will get a better president.

SheppySelecta wrote:Listen all! We've got 2 years until the lord/day of reckoning/end of days starts to become apparent. I never used to be a religious guy but I'm from England and I know that this little island will be properly f**cked! Believe in your faith, love family, god or whatever you hold dear.... The end of days will come in our lifetime, rest assured.. Yahweh, Jehovah, the Lord will prevail. He will come as the destroyer. Know this to be fact and you are one of few that may survive. The final test is belief, hope, prayer and survival. Stock up and be ready - the final tribulation will test us all. When you see the two suns be ready. Jah bless!! By the time many of our brothers and sisters read this it may be too late, but remember be prepared, be focused and be of hope and prayer. For you will need all these in the days to come.

Anyone wanna join me to build a bad ass boat?