ddd wrote:

memikeme wrote:
Hi
In response may I say the following:
When the Planet was in the area that has been blotted out by Google sky,the Planet was NOT BLACK,however the Planet was and has been for many years Reddish then White.
You need to remember that GOOGLE SKY had before they removed this section of sky,a full sky star photo in this area,it's only over the past few months that they have REMOVED THIS AREA!
If you look at he photos in this posting then you will see what I am saying!

Nibiru can only be in one place at a given time.
We are informed that Nibiru will come from behind the sun,then between the sun and the earth!

Regarding the 2nd point of the BLACK planet, as per my posting above,you must remember that the Planet looks Black due to the rays of the SUN.
Have a look yourself,and you will see the black planet!

In time all will be made clear!
If anyone has information on this black Planet as outlined above,then I would be very interested in reading your ideas!

Ok,
1) Forget about the black box mate, the site said the imagery info in that area was corrupted, and needed to be replaced. Viola, It was! It's a simple and perfectly logical reason but, of course, you know better.
2) How many amateur astronomers are there in the world, hundreds of thousands, even millions? I own a 12'' scope myself, and I can say Orion is one of the most observed areas of the whole freakin sky man! A black box would be pointless, a cover up would be pointless.
3)Nibiru will make its final approach into the solar system from the other side of the sun to us, is that what your saying? Gee, there's soo much wrong with that.
a - it's due in 2012 right? Hell, did stichen even predict that year??? Say your video camera isn't reacting to an overload of light when you point it at the sun (have you even thought about that?) Nibiru is on the other side of the sun right now according to you. The problem is that the earth is orbiting the sun. It will do so close to 4 times between now and the date of arrival. Well within a month, you should no longer see that black dot in your video. If its still there, then what you are looking at is an aberration caused by the brilliance of the sun.
b - If you don't believe that explanation, then Nibiru isn't in orbit, but spiraling (rather conveniently for the believers i might add) around the sun, always hiding from us behind it. If its still 4 years out, then that means it is much further from the sun than we are, which means Nibiru is also moving at an impossible velocity. Way beyond escape velocity.
c - so this is what we've got here. A 'planet' in an impossible orbit, moving at an impossible velocity.
3) Then you say Nibiru has fluctuated between white and red, but as it nears the sun it becomes black (BS IMO) - tell me, how does your video camera pick up a black planet a long long way out on the other side of the sun at all, let alone whilst the lens is all but blinded by the brilliance of suns rays?
4) So, if the black dot your seeing is real, and you can see it in the presence of the sun itself, and supposing Nibiru is on a regular looking orbital trajectory, then within a week the whole world will know. Because, even though it is black - you can see it with a freakin video camera whilst being blinded by the sun! In a week when the earth has moved along in it's orbit, and the sun is out of the way - surely Nibiru will stick out like dogs balls.Or will it magically disappear like a pink unicorn....

In time your blind belief in this fantasy planet will prove unfounded. Because it is built on toothpicks

IRIS

Hi,I am not your mate!, however you can call mw SIR,MR,or memikeme!
From your posting you appear to be additated !

This area of space is very well recorded,and for many years NASA, has been recording the planet that they now call "IRIS"
Have a look, investigate with an open mind and you may learn a few things!
Some call it PLANET "X"
Some call it NIBIRU
Some call it IRIS
Regardless of the name,the point being that for over 20 years it has been moving towards Earth!, while a the same time being RECORDED by many interested persons!
I must say that it is VERY STRANGE that GOOGLE has removed the EXACT area of space that we are all interested in!

Open your mind if you can!
Believe me when I say that there is a lot more to this than you know.

If it's been heading towards us for 20 years, how come no one noticed anything? How come there aren't thousands of asteroids and the occasional Dwarf Planet from the Kuiper Belt rocketing towards our little Earth right now? Why hasn't Pluto been smashed into dust? Why aren't Neptune's moons exploding for no f**king reason? Because Planet X is a hypothetical planet beyond Neptune that's NOT hurdling towards Earth at "Oh my God, it's freaking fast!" speeds, Nibiru means Jupiter, which isn't flying towards us but is nestled quite nicely in it's orbit around the Sun, and Iris is a plant.

memikeme wrote:
Believe me when I say that there is a lot more to this than you know.

Isn't there always in the minds of conspiracy theorists!

I think it's already understood that I don't believe you.
You keep going then, surely one day you'll grow out of it. Iris, the one I found anyway, is an asteroid that comes barely within an AU of the Earth. Planet X was thrown out years ago, when the candidates were found to be dwarf galaxies. Wobbles in Neptune's orbit have been explained since the voyager probes flew past and its mass was recalculated by the gravity assist the probes received in the encounter. Stichen couldn't translate Sumerian writings properly, his Nibiru theory is a pile of rubbish from the get-go. The central symbol on the seal is a star. The star that represents the god on the throne whom which is receiving an offering. The other balls are surrounding stars, which have no importance to the seal.
This is all about gullibility. People make money on this stuff. You think your the only one with a theory, your not. Its a pretty weak one too.

Again, how could your regular old video camera pick up a black planet many billions of kilometers on the other side of the sun - whilst the sun itself is in the picture.
Can you not see how bad a judge you are of credibility when it comes to concocting a theory? Go learn some astronomy, there are online courses, do something constructive.

Ill add this, might as well get it out of the way. You've thrown up a few names, but you entitled this thread Nibiru and the Sun

From what I hear Nibiru was supposedly captured by our Sun early on whilst the the solar system was in its infancy. Nibiru is at least as large as Jupiter, but most think it's several times larger. It has a 3600 year orbital period, at perihelion (according to you) it comes within the orbit of the Earth relative to the sun.

1) Considering the age of our solar system, Nibiru has passed through the solar system well over 1 000 000 times. Yet the planetary orbits in this system are stable. If a planet such as Nibiru, probably with more mass than the rest of the planets combined, passed through the solar system even once, it would wreak havoc with planetary orbits. Smaller planets like the earth, mars, venus would have been ejected from this solar system billions of years ago. In the earth's case for example, this planet has been supporting life for nearly four billion years. It has always been stable. There is a cycle of ice ages that may have been related to a cycle (not sudden, but ever changing) eccentricity, but this is a stable cycle in itself, part thereof a stable orbit. If Nibiru were real, this would be impossible.

2) The very orbit of Nibiru itself isn't plausible. Exoplanets of comparable sizes have highly elliptical orbits that might vary say between 2 AU at perihelion and 5 AU at apohelion. These are extreme orbits. Nibiru on the other hand would vary by less than 1 AU at Per, to many hundreds of AU at apoh. This is ridiculous. A comet can do this, but it has trillions of times less mass. But a planet the size and mass of Nibiru, if it encountered our sun on such a trajectory, would keep on going and be lost to space. Escape velocity from the sun drops the further away from it you travel. Id hate to think what the escape velocity for an object the mass of Nibiru would be at, say 300 AU whilst it still has some way to go before reaching apohelion. I could probably walk faster. The gravity the sun exerts on such a massive object at such a massive distance is almost non-existent.

3) If it were less than 4 years away from us, we would all see it with our naked eyes in the night sky for most of a year at a time. But of course, it can magically turn black can't it. And of course, you can only see it if you point a video camera at the sun, can't you. Even though all the onlooking astronomers missed it whilst it was traveling past the constellation of Orion, Google still saw the need to black it out anyway, under the beautifully masterminded guise of 'technical error'.

No I'm not your mate, its called sarcasm. I lay it on thick sometimes. agitated...me!! You be the judge.

ddd wrote:Again, how could your regular old video camera pick up a black planet many billions of kilometers on the other side of the sun - whilst the sun itself is in the picture.

I should also add the most obvious fact, that you're doing this during the daytime. Bright stars can be visible in the daytime if you have a trained eye, and know exactly where to look, but a black planet billions of km away with the sun sitting almost directly in between. With a video camera? Perhaps mercury might show up if it was between us and the sun. But I'd seriously doubt you'd pick that up either, anyway neither mercury or venus are very close to the sun from our perspective right now.

sorry, but I'm having fun here.

NoPlanetX wrote:It's either a very bright star, or Venus. I'd assume the Google Sky thing is a glitch of some sort. Not all of the stars are in the same place or the same color, anyway. And for all you know, something in that part of the sky may not exist anymore. And plus, for all I know, you could have edited that with Photoshop, or even Paint. Come back when you have better proof.

And what exactly would I accomplish by photoshopping the picture?

Well the black planet is obviously mercury. Just to shut some of you up the only way to see mercury is by looking at the sun in the exact way you described at dusk or dawn when magnitude of the sun is low enough to see it, and yes it is that close to the sun. Also does light reflect behind your mirrors? Some of you people really are stupid? Well why would you think a planet would reflect black if it was behind the sun? Its obviously in front of the sun and your seeing the dark side of mercury! Hopefully thats cleared up!

Now about nibiru. I don't know what some of you guys have been reading. Its orbital path is between mars and jupiter not between us and the sun. I'll get round to it in a moment! But if nibiru did orbit in-between us and the sun the inner planets would of been sucked out of orbit or smashed to bits due to gravity of the sun combined with a body of nibiru's size (4x earth) and the speed of its trajectory round the sun at such a close distance. So there's that idea out the window

Ok to the facts we have! The asteroid belt lies between mars and jupiter well listen good now ok! The asteroid field should of formed some sort of spherical shape by now considering how old the solar system is, i mean it should of collected together and it should be a planet by now. The only explanation is that there was a collision quite a thew million years ago and that destroyed the planet that was there coursing the asteroid belt. In time it will reform taking about 450- 1000 million years.
But back to the asteroid belt, well nasa of all the people do let out some information that proves the existence of another planet in that orbit (nibiru) , the asteroid belt has been mapped and it shows that there is in existence an object passing through the asteroid belt in 2 places and moving these big rocks about, then leaving, in my opinion the turning point of nibiru entering our orbital path through the asteroid belt then back out again through the asteroid belt for the second time theres a lot more to prove there is another planet out there...

The fact that all the planets are sloping at an angle tells you something is coursing that to happen yes!

Also the fact that 90% of solar systems are binary star systems, also gives you a clue to this...In fact didn't nasa release information in 1983 that they found a brown dwarf star orbiting our own sun??

At around the same angle of 29" witch is coincidence that it is the same orbital angle of nibiru's orbit!

The movement in the large outer planets when they seemingly move backwards. Witch can only be coursed by another planet but it needs to be big enough (alleged size of nibiru is 4 to 8 times the size of earth)

Well that should be enough to keep you guys thinking..

Oh and the black square on Google sky map is the said location of Nibiru. All be it nobody knows exactly where.

I didn't want to have to give out the address of the site where I got the pic, in case this site was under surveillance. But if it will show you non believers then so be it.

http://aladin.u-strasbg.fr/alapre.pl?-c=5+53+35.51+-6+16+16.80&button=RGB

Choose whatever co ordinates you wish but the current set ones which I have already put in for this link is the location of Nibiru

NoPlanetX wrote:If it's been heading towards us for 20 years, how come no one noticed anything? How come there aren't thousands of asteroids and the occasional Dwarf Planet from the Kuiper Belt rocketing towards our little Earth right now? Why hasn't Pluto been smashed into dust? Why aren't Neptune's moons exploding for no f**king reason? Because Planet X is a hypothetical planet beyond Neptune that's NOT hurdling towards Earth at "Oh my God, it's freaking fast!" speeds, Nibiru means Jupiter, which isn't flying towards us but is nestled quite nicely in it's orbit around the Sun, and Iris is a plant.

You need to look at the newspapers and reports as recorded in the 1980s - 1984
Look at the amount of reports on planet "X"
Then you need to look at the NASA report as of 1992.
Then you need to look at the space photos as per ref points in my postings!,then you need to STOP and think as to why this area has been BLACKED out!

You also need to look at NASA info on the planet "IRIS" which was called Planet "X" before NASA renamed it!

You need so much that I can see that I am unable and unwilling to respond to your ramblings anymore!
Why don't you just investigate the information before you start talking in this manner!