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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:43 am

Deianera,
planet Jupiter would "grow a pair of eyes"
, do you honestly believe they had telescopes capable of seeing the "Red Spot"s on jupiter?

Bluered3,
"he,s goverment employed and this is his job,,,,do not EVER respond to this type"
you dumbass. Your typographical errors and your conspiracy theorys do not lend to Deianeras cause and just makes you look like an idiot. Shut up. Seriously.

Stonehenge, have you considered Continential drift?

Deianera, Job refers to God being able to do these things, "He" not "Which" and there is nothing to suggest that these events occured. It is mearly a statement of how great and powerful God is. Nothing more. Dont take things out of context, especially if your trying to prove a point and the full context is readily avaliable for any who look. Nostradamus' predicitions cant really be considered evidence for anything either. Someone who makes 1000's of predictions with only a handful coming true isnt a very reliable source. Especially when you consider that when you make that many predictions at least a couple have to be correct.

Stonehenge,
"You're pretty much answered your own paranoid delusions", which makes no sense ("you're" not "you've"), it tells me that the person responded in anger, perhaps even frustration over the subject
ok seriously, that may work in writing (hand written) but with computers there are such things as typos. I often find Im writing a word completely different from what Im thinking and a simple switch of r and v is pretty easy to do. Just a tip, grammer has nothing to do with accuracy of infomation. As pointed out by dvnt.

Deianera,
the oldest known civilization to have used calculus- a mathematics used to plot the sizes & orbits of planets? Why invent an extremely complex form of math for which they had no use?
You do realise that just because they had calculus (which isnt used exclusively astronomy) doesnt mean they knew anything other than what could be seen by eye or seen through primative telescopes. "to help each other learn to survive what is coming by sharing what we know" you do realise that there are no survival techniques listed on here right? And that everything is "predicitions" and out of context material?

Deianera,
The main reason the posts on this site make you so angry is that you know nothing about what we are talking about & are too lazy in your thinking to admit it or bother to inform yourself about what you see.
Id assume its the same reason Im here, saw a flashy banner with a comet and wanted to know more only to find a site filled to the bring with conspiaracy theorys.
look at the Soviet Union, if you will. An atheist nation that was & now is again a great & dangerous power.
Im sorry to say the Solviet Union is not 100% atheist or even 99% and cannot be considered an "atheist nation" which, correct me if Im wrong would make it a "Nation of atheists", which I know for a fact is untrue.

Dvnt,
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color." - Don Hirschberg
Atheism is by no qualification a religion.

A religion is a belief, you believe in no god. Therefore, Atheism is equal to a religion in that its just a grouping of religions that dont believe in a god. I mean even evolution is a religion and a "science". "You cannot break Einsteins rules of relativity any more than you can break the laws of thermal dynamics and other such understandings." Incorrect, you can break Einsteins rules of relativity with quantum mechanics. They are still "rules" because quantum is considered something totally different.



You guys are so totally off the topic :P
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby dvnt » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:54 am

Deianera wrote:Why do you even care? What evidence to the contrary have YOU got? Get out of the closet! Don't just bully people here on the net to pass the time- stick your own neck out, for once. TELL US WHY YOU THINK WE'RE WRONG!


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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Guest » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:11 pm

Stonehenge, have you considered Continential drift?


I'm not sure, but I guess Stonehenge was talking of a great distance between the "Stonehenge makes sense" location and its actual location. Acording to what I've learned, it would take millions of years of Continental drift to make the Stonehenge "move" that much.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby dvnt » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:49 pm

At usual rates yes. It's also possible that a specific tectonic event might have cause this drift to be more dramatic. I suspect that's why he came here, for the speculation of dramatic events that could do such a thing. How a planet zipping in and out of the Kuiper belt could cause such a thing has yet to be explained to me by anyone. Two amazing and dramatic possibilities don't equal a solid theory simply by whimsical association.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Zanariel » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:13 pm

I think that some of the users here believe (I don't know it it's possible or not) that a large planet like Nibiru could mix the gravity forces applied on Earth, therefore making the planet shift or turn or whatever. That COULD explain the "Stonehenge-out-of-place" theory.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby dvnt » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:25 pm

I've deduced as much myself. But I've yet to get out of them: By what mechanism does this macroscopic gravitational effect manifest tectonic drift and or magnetic polarity reversal on the planetary scale?

Where are their experiments, observations, and calculations on this hypothesis?
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Zanariel » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:44 pm

Maybe there are some scientists studies on the internet. Actually, it's pretty much possible. Two different bodies allways have gravity between them. So, a large body COULD 'cause tectonical disturbances, floods (as you all know, the gravity between the moon and earth controls the tides), and even climatic changes. I don't know.

Still, at least it's PROVEABLE. Not like that "Bible and God says.." piece of brain-melting-gonorreia.

Don't try to prove anything with God. Please? It's like an insult to a non-believer's intelligence. And, it makes you guys look stupid.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby dvnt » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:49 pm

I don't think it's any better at all. None of this information they get is based on science that suffers peer review. It's the exact same thing as a god and bible the only difference is that their god is the Sitchin family and their bible is their books.

It's no doubt possible that these gravitational disturbances could cause such phenomenon. But I'm asking for these physics calculations or historical observations of said occurrences. Then they still have to reconcile how something so powerful wouldn't pull us out of our orbit. Or, how something so influential doesn't seem to interfere with our probes. We can still contact the Voyager, ya know?

I can concede that at least they try, what with the pseudo-science and all. And they try to use big words even if they don't understand what they mean when you put them all together.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Zanariel » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:35 pm

Well, the rest is up to conspiracys. Like... "NASA knows about this planet, has scientific facts, but won't tell anyone! It's their dirty little secret!". Well, maybe. But that brings us to the invisible pink unicorn.

Some say that it's known, but they don't want the general population to know about it, as it would 'cause major panic.
Well, considering the "OMFGWTFNOOOOOOOIDON'TWANNADIE" comments we have around here and other forums, I wouldn't tell the population either.
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