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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby uh...maybe » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:48 am

Also, I forgot to mention to make sure you pass the movies on to others because not many people really have watched them...
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby E.P. Grondine » Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:32 am

Hi -

A fine piece on some of the mistakes some people have made in reading and translating ancient near eastern astronomical texts may be found here:

h*tp://www.sitchiniswrong.com/

Some of the records of impacts in the ancient near east may be read here:

The Egyptian Book of the Celestial Cow
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/ce102103.html

Worknotes On Man In The Ancient Near East And Impact Events
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc041702.html

The Song Of Ullikummi, a Hurrian account of the Tel Leilan impact
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc012099.html

On the Joshua impact event
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc032098.html
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc032598.html
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc033098.html
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc012102.html
h*tp://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/cc021202.html

I'm going to put up the rest of them over at the who I am page.

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Man and Impact in the Americas
http://www.amazon.com/Man-Impact-Americ ... F8&s=books
or read it free through interlibrary loan
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby E.P. Grondine » Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:03 am

Hi -

Just to clarify this for you, Sitchin got his really bad linguistics and physics from Velikovsky, who in turn got them from Comyns Beaumont.

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Man and Impact in the Americas
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby cresidue » Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:25 am

You need to actually read ALL the Z. Sitchin books because your entire article is a serious hack job. Your conclusion are erroneous and missing the actual facts in the Earth Chronicles books. I truly doubt whether you read past The 12th Planet, because your conclusions are amateurish!
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby E.P. Grondine » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:01 pm

Hi -

You obviously missed my earlier post, citing a real expert on Sitchin's books AND ancient near eastern languages:

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchiniswrongcontentpage.htm

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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby E.P. Grondine » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:53 pm

Hi -

Or take a look here
http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/discb.html
by Bob Kobres:
http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/meteor.html

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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Aurush » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:58 am

There does seem to be some factual support that Planet X or Nibiru does indeed exist. If you search for it - you won't find it - at least by that name. A search of the name 'Sedna' , however, will steer you in the right direction. This was found and confirmed by NASA in 2003.

NASA was very quick to deny the speculation that Sedna was Planet X or Nibiru as it wasn't a 'dwarf star'. Do I 'trust' that answer - not really. Sedna was located in 'deep space'. Sedna has been described by NASA as a dwarf planet and subsequent reports confirmed it as a body comprised of dense iron and markedly red in color. It's surface temperature was reported as being close to that of surrounding space. If the above is true - then how was this 'body' found?? Deep-space is immense and finding a small non-radiating body that far out is impossible - unless - you are specifically looking for it. The finding of Sedna was therefore NOT by chance. Sedna was actually found by researchers looking at points along possible orbital paths between our sun and stars in the Orion constellation and our sun based upon calculations of orbital times noted above. (NASA still had trouble confirming Sedna even after being given the coordinates by the researchers). **Thus the data which appears to have lead to the discovery of Sedna, and which people are debating here, 'appears' strangely accurate and at least worthy of consideration with an open mind.**
The 'planet' has been given an estimated orbital period of 10,500 years by NASA - unclear if this supports what was predicted (this was noted to be an estimate by NASA but it is odd that this just happens to be a multiple of the 3500 years noted above)
The orbital path was confirmed as being elliptical - supporting what was predicted
It's description of being 'red' in color and another report of there being what has described as some 'oily' surface
material IS consistent with what about decades earlier as what would be found when Planet X was located. The iron-based properties of this entity are also critically important (consistent with 'red glow' due to heating and enhanced magnetic effects should it actually enter our immediate solar system) as it supports what was predicted.
Magnetic effects on light passing through the atmospheres' of some of the outer planets supposedly helped in finding Sedna. If true, this is disturbing as it would confirm that this entity is already showing effects within out solar system.
Magnetic Polar Shift - appears probable that it occurs as an abrupt event based upon polarity studies of boundary area rock. (this was originally NOT believed to be the case). If the above is truly accurate, then intersection/interaction with an iron-based planet/star needs to be considered as a potential 'triggering' event. (The current existing theory has been that a 'pole-shift' is due to a shift in magnetic/sun-spot cycles of the sun (this theory never quite worked for me; and it also seems that the sun-spots get conveniently blamed whenever scientists don't have an explanation that fits all the facts)).
It was predicted that Tectonic events (earthquakes/volcanism) would be increased and more severe as Planet X started to influence our solar system. At present we are definitely seeing increased volcanism on a global scale (along with Yellowstone, new recent increase activity at Kilauea, and just today it was reported that Mt Redoubt in Alaska is expected to have an imminent major eruption. On the surface this increased volcanism could be a natural cycle, but I will admit that its' timing in conjunction with all the above raises the possibility of there being a far more problematic cause at hand.


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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Zauron3ooo » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:40 pm

I have not followed the thread just the first posts so i don't know what more have come up, but from true sources the planet called Nibiru will come but not in 2012 but in 2030. Why people have stayed at 2012 is because it's the beginning of a new era, the planet arrival at 2012 is just another mellenium thing that there will be the end of the world. The planet is coming, ju9st not as soon as everyone thinks.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby Oak » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:24 pm

Deianera wrote:IF the things I've posted are going to occur, shouldn't people be prepared in any event?


And if those catastrophes never happen, won't people have wasted an awful lot of time and energy, and very likely money, preparing for an event that no responsible researcher ever supported?

Time is all you have, and you don't have that much even if all goes well. Do you really think you have enough to waste on this? You will one day feel like such a fool for being taken in by the hucksters and prophets of doom. And you will regret the precious time you wasted. Will you regret the time you caused others to waste?

Your current prediction is that we'll get our comeuppance from Nibiru in May of 2013. Fine.

I challenge you to publicly make this statement on June 1, 2013:
    Dear Friends: I was a fool. I am deeply embarrassed, as I should be. And moreover, I deeply regret whatever anguish or apprehension I have caused you. The unwarranted and plainly unsubstantiated predictions I made in recent years have shown me to be gullible and irrational. Henceforth, I will keep my beliefs to myself; I owe you that much.
Beware if you take the vow. Nothing on the Internet ever goes away. You will face those words again.

So if your predictions turn out false, I trust you're willing to own up to your foolishness in public, and apologize for unnecessarily scaring people.

Alas, whatever boastful promises you make today, in the end you won't take the heat you deserve. Your kind--and you are not the first--never does.
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Re: NIBIRU 2012

Postby ivanindahau » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:56 am

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