I am the Thorn wrote:

engineerretired wrote:But that doesn't qualify them to have opinions on subjects where they have no expertise."

Congratulations, you're an expert on copying and pasting other people's work in a lame attempt to convince people that they are not experts

Yeah that hit pretty hard huh engineerretired. I just wanna rub it in your face because it's bloody true.
I must be frustrating to be exposed so easily in such a short description

To I am the Thorn and Quetzalcoatl:

Looks like Dr. Dutch's observations struck a nerve. The only thing exposed here is your unbounded arrogance. You have immersed yourself in pseudoscience and now you are an 'expert'. You become irate when anyone questions your bizarre theories and accuse them of not " doing their studies." You cannot be challenged because you are the expert and they have 'monkey minds'. If only they would "do their studies" they would reach the same conclusions that you have reached. ARROGANCE!

Lets take a look at the sources of your self appointed expertise.

The Mayan calendar. Not one reputable scholar has concluded that it predicts or foretells anything. Not one.
The Sumerian artifacts. Not one reputable expert in that field has agreed with Sitchin's conclusions. Not one.
Nibiru. Not one reputable astronomer or astrophysicist confirms a planet such as this. Not one.
Velikovsky. Not one reputable astronomer or geologist accepts his theories. Venus came out of Jupiter? Gimme a break.
Von Daniken. When he wrote Chariots of the Gods he was in prison for fraud. He sees what he wants to see. The Egyptians had light bulbs? Gimme a break.
Ancient aliens creating humans or altering DNA. Not one scientist in any field believes this. Not one.
Nostradamus. Predicted nothing.
Bible codes. Debunked by reputable mathematicians and statisticians.

The operative word in the above is REPUTABLE. Not pseudoscience crackpots, amateur archeologists, self taught "experts" in ancient cultures, people who get information from aliens, or read tea leaves or see the future in crystal balls. I'm going to stick with the real experts.

You are hostile toward real science and scientists because it challenges your belief system. They are wrong and you are right. ARROGANCE!

You have the unmitigated gall to say that you have exposed ME. I think not. Stay in your close minded little pseudo-world. That's is where you belong.

Engineerretired - early

Guest wrote:To I am the Thorn and Quetzalcoatl:

Looks like Dr. Dutch's observations struck a nerve. The only thing exposed here is your unbounded arrogance. You have immersed yourself in pseudoscience and now you are an 'expert'. You become irate when anyone questions your bizarre theories and accuse them of not " doing their studies." You cannot be challenged because you are the expert and they have 'monkey minds'. If only they would "do their studies" they would reach the same conclusions that you have reached. ARROGANCE!

Lets take a look at the sources of your self appointed expertise.

The Mayan calendar. Not one reputable scholar has concluded that it predicts or foretells anything. Not one.
The Sumerian artifacts. Not one reputable expert in that field has agreed with Sitchin's conclusions. Not one.
Nibiru. Not one reputable astronomer or astrophysicist confirms a planet such as this. Not one.
Velikovsky. Not one reputable astronomer or geologist accepts his theories. Venus came out of Jupiter? Gimme a break.
Von Daniken. When he wrote Chariots of the Gods he was in prison for fraud. He sees what he wants to see. The Egyptians had light bulbs? Gimme a break.
Ancient aliens creating humans or altering DNA. Not one scientist in any field believes this. Not one.
Nostradamus. Predicted nothing.
Bible codes. Debunked by reputable mathematicians and statisticians.

The operative word in the above is REPUTABLE. Not pseudoscience crackpots, amateur archeologists, self taught "experts" in ancient cultures, people who get information from aliens, or read tea leaves or see the future in crystal balls. I'm going to stick with the real experts.

You are hostile toward real science and scientists because it challenges your belief system. They are wrong and you are right. ARROGANCE!

You have the unmitigated gall to say that you have exposed ME. I think not. Stay in your close minded little pseudo-world. That's is where you belong.

Engineerretired - early

More copying and pasting of other people's work and words"."..

Congratulations on not being able to FORM and back up your OWN OPINIONS.

I've never mentioned anything in this thread in relation to the above in bold.

Get your facts straight and then come back and copy and paste some more diatribe.

THE GUEST WROTE:

The Mayan calendar. Not one reputable scholar has concluded that it predicts or foretells anything. Not one.
The Sumerian artifacts. Not one reputable expert in that field has agreed with Sitchin's conclusions. Not one.
Nibiru. Not one reputable astronomer or astrophysicist confirms a planet such as this. Not one.
Velikovsky. Not one reputable astronomer or geologist accepts his theories. Venus came out of Jupiter? Gimme a break.
Von Daniken. When he wrote Chariots of the Gods he was in prison for fraud. He sees what he wants to see. The Egyptians had light bulbs? Gimme a break.
Ancient aliens creating humans or altering DNA. Not one scientist in any field believes this. Not one.
Nostradamus. Predicted nothing.
Bible codes. Debunked by reputable mathematicians and statisticians.

This is DISINFORMATION TO THE CORE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE BUT YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD INTENTIONS MISLEADING PEOPLE.

The Venus theory is also a ancient American Indian theory handed down for many generations but when you take someone like Von Daniken and put him up against a scholar like Stichen that's just ridiculous. Doesn't discount the Nasscar Lines though - they do exist - so who made them???

I personally went to Egypt back in 1987 and visited one ancient temple where the oldest walls predated the Hebrews, on these walls was a mystery where there is depicted a picture of what looks like a light bulb with even the filament in it drawn hooked up to a box, a creature never seen before, a circumsized penis which is suppose to be started by the Jews (why?) and Hebrew written on the wall which means it's a much older language. There were many more mysteries in Egypt that you can see with your own two eyes, carved pics of helicopter, jets, etc. YOUR MISINFORMED.

I have attended lectures by scientist in the early 90's and geologist that are at least looking at the theories and have come up with one others ones, they work for some of the top companies of this country, even government funded ones.

The Mayan calendar is one of the most accurate astronomical calendars when it comes to sun/moon phases and more. Documented by scholars!

I personally have met Stichin back in 1998 before all this 2012 came to light, he is a respected scholar and to discredit him is a joke. It's easy to mislead people about someones character if they don't know the person and he is a very grounded individual a professor. The Sumerian text is only one of the many languages and text that he has deciphered. Where are all the reputable scholars that have deciphered these Sumerian text information and their books??? None have done the research he has done.

Bible code of OLD TESTAMENT IN HEBREW discovered by world renown mathematician and statisticians. I'm not talking about that new testament crap online by some none reputable individuals.

Also sounds like your into first tier science, main stream aren't up there with the big boys. Don't rely on NASA folks they have so many secrets they are keeping from us it's not funny. Tunnel vision that's what this is all about a well trained reptilian mind - very well programed. I bet your proud of yourself.

Ok. Not too bad. But I just need the answer to some questions. Maybe you have the all-knowing intelligence to answer everybody's questions.

1) If we have developed completely from earth, why are we the only species out of millions of species (that have been evolving for millions of years to adapt and survive best in their environments) that evolved in a few thousand years to NOT be able to naturally live and survive in a natural environment without some kind of aid like clothing, "housing", modes of transport etc?
2) Is the Bible a lie? It does tell us that "the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose" & "The Nephilim[a] were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown" Who do you think these "sons of God" were?

Who permitted to write WE? Do YOU really need war? Then go to the army! You mean "i need war far away from my home, killing most people on the other side of the planet." If you want to eliminate the overpopulation so bad, then please start with your own life. Moron.

Ok, I did not know this is a insulting and swearing contest. But anyway, do you honestly think mankind will be able to just carry on multiplying in their billions without an "expanding" habitat to occupy. Where do you think everybody is going to get food and shelter from? Have you seen Africa lately? Who is going to feed, cloth, house, and protect everybody when every possible inch of earth is covered in humans and every last morsel of food is consumed.

And one last thing. Do you honestly think man with their "war loving" nature will be able to just live together "on each others toes" without some kind of conflict breaking out? Wake up man, Our planet cannot sustain humans breading out of control without any consideration for the planet. It doesn't grow of get any bigger you know. Are you gonna stop humans from breading the planet out of existence?

whatif wrote:Ok. Not too bad. But I just need the answer to some questions. Maybe you have the all-knowing intelligence to answer everybody's questions.

1) If we have developed completely from earth, why are we the only species out of millions of species (that have been evolving for millions of years to adapt and survive best in their environments) that evolved in a few thousand years to NOT be able to naturally live and survive in a natural environment without some kind of aid like clothing, "housing", modes of transport etc?

Who are you talking to? But anyway.
We can survive in a natural environment. Can we survive without clothes? Sure. Can we do that in the arctic? Nope. Do we prefer to make clothes because we don't like being cold? Yes. We originally came from Africa, which has (surprise) quite a warm climate. We could easily survive without clothes there, but we would have a harder time of it in, for example, Russia. Housing? Animals make nests too. Modes of transport? What about our legs? They do just fine for most things.

This beautiful planet just cannot survive the overwhelming numbers and inconsiderate breeding of the human race. Not even the mighty Blue Fin Tuna.

"As efforts to prevent the bluefin tuna suffering a similar fate are increased, some conservationists wonder whether there will still be a breeding population left to save."

"Yet even if the trade in bluefin tuna were to be halted completely, there would be no guarantee that the species would recover. Experience with other fisheries, such as the collapse of the cod population of the Grand Banks off Newfoundland in 1992, has shown that the dynamics of an ecosystem can change when a top predator is removed completely. Fifteen years later, the northern cod stock has not recovered."

"In a study published last year in Conservation Letters, a group of scientists led by Brian MacKenzie, of the Technical University of Denmark, describe how they ran a computer model of the bluefin tuna's population dynamics. Their conclusion is that, on current trends, the population in the north-east Atlantic and Mediterranean will collapse because young fish are being caught before they have the chance to breed. Indeed, the World Wildlife Fund, a nature conservation organization, reckons that bluefin spawners will be virtually eliminated by 2012."

"As Prince Albert, Monaco's ruler, wrote in the Wall Street Journal last month, "The forces of selfishness and stupidity that wiped out the great whales and the northern cod in the last century are steaming ahead at full speed... The bluefin tuna is as endangered as the giant panda and the white rhino." Unless a ban is enforced almost immediately, the only examples of the species could be found in large aquariums."