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Re: Jesus is coming soon
by kiwirock30 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:46 am
loverofGod wrote:Listen all of u non-believers and all of u who say God and Jesus can go f*** themselves need to realize that the end is close and that God loves and cares for you.
Just please open your eyes and your ears and listen and wittness the miracles of God. Just please try to read the Bible and see that it makes sence. Revelation talks ablut the end of the world. And you'd be suprised how much is going on right now. Listen to what i ve said, please God loves and cares for all of you.
Would you really rather burn in the fiery pits of Hell, than live in peace in the kingdom of Heaven!!! Think about that. God loves you.
Beloved of God,
In hell? Please explain Genesis 3:19 (from dust you were dust you will return), Ecc 9:5 and 10, where it talks about the dead are not conscious they are dead, there is no wisdom nor knowledge to the place which you are going Sheol in Hebrew (bad English traditions call this Hell which is actually Gehenna, a different place again in the Greek scriptures).
Please explain why you picture that God is so un-loving that he would burn his childs hand FOREVER, for getting a few decades of his life mixed up without an accurate knowledge of truth before death? Is that just? Because the bible says all will come to an accurate knowledge of truth, and the book of acts says both the righteous and unrighteous will be resurrected. Even Revelation 20:14 talks about throwing death and Hadas (Greek) Sheol (Hebrew) in to the lake of fire (Gehenna, a literal place used to destroy rubbish in a sulfur pit where things went back to dust/ashes forever, symbolic for nothingness/non-existence). Gehenna means non-exsistence, not some firey furnace that Satans version of justice and torture with Gods name attached to it tries to teach!!!!!!!! The illustration in Revelation clearly says that death will be NO MORE (thrown in the the lake of fire, Gehnenna), death's not going to be tortured in some fiery furnace. Death is going to be NO MORE. REJOICE.
I pray by spirit in all urgency through our fathers son that you recieve by spirit the truth of what I have just said that he has also shared with me, that you see God is not the torturer others have made you make him out to be.
May the love of God safeguard your heart against those who should try to deceive it.
Your servant, in Christ.
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Re: Jesus is coming soon
by Guest » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:39 am
Okay for the evolutionists:
How come other monkeys are still here and not humans?
Fact: Random mutation does not create new information, it only destroys information.
The latest science suggests we're devolving not evolving because of that statement. The bible already supports this as people are going from bad to worse. That we were made perfect and are now degenerating because at one point become imperfect.
Just like the days of scientists finding out the earth was round and hung from nothing. The bible taught it quite a few hundred years earlier while man was still convinced going to sea one could fall off the end of the earth LOL.
People still don't know why we have different languages, yet the bible, it's historic events of babel hence the name babylon (after God changed peoples tongues to confuse workers of the city) still fills the world with evidence today including the desolate waste, a current testimony to what God promised, that it will remain a place of ruins. The only difference, is faith. It takes just as much an act of faith to believe that God doesn't exists as it takes to believe he does. Anyone who claims 100% that God doesn't exist must be God, because to know everything about everything in our universe is well beyond the understanding of a mere human being on a tiny planet in an ant hill of a solar system. But the bible says God knows even the number of hairs on each individuals head on our tiny spec of an eco system.
Does the bible say evolution (as most evolutionists understand it to be), was not a process used at any point during the creation of the earths inhabitants? God said he created things, not how in detail. Infact he had to teach his son, the master worker, being the only begotten (created) of the father. Through him all things were created. How do you teach a child to build things? by a gradual process of teaching and learning? Who says that the results of creation were not part of gradual building system some like to call evolution? Infact the bible says he created man from dust and placed him in the garden of E'Den. Genesis 2:8 points out YWHW (God) planted a garden in E:Den, toward the east, and there he PUT the man whom he had formed. For all I know he used evolution to create him in the desert after he was finished with dinosaurs as pets then put him in the garden when he was ready and gave him consciousness for the first time. After all, everything including things being CREATED by a designer are in a stage of evolution/development if you want to take the dictionary description in to account. But the faith side of things which is where the whole god vs no god viewpoint on creation comes from, having faith there is no god and claiming to know everything in order to make that judgement, I invest that same amount of faith in believing he is instead, and that the bible is Gods word, and that Jesus is the word in the flesh.
For the big bang theorists: Let's look at the typical human dwelling, the home. If I took a container of steel, concrete, glass/sand, water some other odds and ends and blew it up with some TNT, what are the odds it creates a modern house? Flowing gardens, spacious indoor-outdoor flow, lakeside views, a TV, stereo etc...? Or does the more pleasing things to the eye require a designer/creator?
How come other monkeys are still here and not humans?
Fact: Random mutation does not create new information, it only destroys information.
The latest science suggests we're devolving not evolving because of that statement. The bible already supports this as people are going from bad to worse. That we were made perfect and are now degenerating because at one point become imperfect.
Just like the days of scientists finding out the earth was round and hung from nothing. The bible taught it quite a few hundred years earlier while man was still convinced going to sea one could fall off the end of the earth LOL.
People still don't know why we have different languages, yet the bible, it's historic events of babel hence the name babylon (after God changed peoples tongues to confuse workers of the city) still fills the world with evidence today including the desolate waste, a current testimony to what God promised, that it will remain a place of ruins. The only difference, is faith. It takes just as much an act of faith to believe that God doesn't exists as it takes to believe he does. Anyone who claims 100% that God doesn't exist must be God, because to know everything about everything in our universe is well beyond the understanding of a mere human being on a tiny planet in an ant hill of a solar system. But the bible says God knows even the number of hairs on each individuals head on our tiny spec of an eco system.
Does the bible say evolution (as most evolutionists understand it to be), was not a process used at any point during the creation of the earths inhabitants? God said he created things, not how in detail. Infact he had to teach his son, the master worker, being the only begotten (created) of the father. Through him all things were created. How do you teach a child to build things? by a gradual process of teaching and learning? Who says that the results of creation were not part of gradual building system some like to call evolution? Infact the bible says he created man from dust and placed him in the garden of E'Den. Genesis 2:8 points out YWHW (God) planted a garden in E:Den, toward the east, and there he PUT the man whom he had formed. For all I know he used evolution to create him in the desert after he was finished with dinosaurs as pets then put him in the garden when he was ready and gave him consciousness for the first time. After all, everything including things being CREATED by a designer are in a stage of evolution/development if you want to take the dictionary description in to account. But the faith side of things which is where the whole god vs no god viewpoint on creation comes from, having faith there is no god and claiming to know everything in order to make that judgement, I invest that same amount of faith in believing he is instead, and that the bible is Gods word, and that Jesus is the word in the flesh.
For the big bang theorists: Let's look at the typical human dwelling, the home. If I took a container of steel, concrete, glass/sand, water some other odds and ends and blew it up with some TNT, what are the odds it creates a modern house? Flowing gardens, spacious indoor-outdoor flow, lakeside views, a TV, stereo etc...? Or does the more pleasing things to the eye require a designer/creator?
- Guest
Re: Jesus is coming soon
by Guest » Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:39 pm
Guest wrote:Okay for the evolutionists:
How come other monkeys are still here and not humans?
Fact: Random mutation does not create new information, it only destroys information.
The latest science suggests we're devolving not evolving because of that statement. The bible already supports this as people are going from bad to worse. That we were made perfect and are now degenerating because at one point become imperfect.
Just like the days of scientists finding out the earth was round and hung from nothing. The bible taught it quite a few hundred years earlier while man was still convinced going to sea one could fall off the end of the earth LOL.
People still don't know why we have different languages, yet the bible, it's historic events of babel hence the name babylon (after God changed peoples tongues to confuse workers of the city) still fills the world with evidence today including the desolate waste, a current testimony to what God promised, that it will remain a place of ruins. The only difference, is faith. It takes just as much an act of faith to believe that God doesn't exists as it takes to believe he does. Anyone who claims 100% that God doesn't exist must be God, because to know everything about everything in our universe is well beyond the understanding of a mere human being on a tiny planet in an ant hill of a solar system. But the bible says God knows even the number of hairs on each individuals head on our tiny spec of an eco system.
Does the bible say evolution (as most evolutionists understand it to be), was not a process used at any point during the creation of the earths inhabitants? God said he created things, not how in detail. Infact he had to teach his son, the master worker, being the only begotten (created) of the father. Through him all things were created. How do you teach a child to build things? by a gradual process of teaching and learning? Who says that the results of creation were not part of gradual building system some like to call evolution? Infact the bible says he created man from dust and placed him in the garden of E'Den. Genesis 2:8 points out YWHW (God) planted a garden in E:Den, toward the east, and there he PUT the man whom he had formed. For all I know he used evolution to create him in the desert after he was finished with dinosaurs as pets then put him in the garden when he was ready and gave him consciousness for the first time. After all, everything including things being CREATED by a designer are in a stage of evolution/development if you want to take the dictionary description in to account. But the faith side of things which is where the whole god vs no god viewpoint on creation comes from, having faith there is no god and claiming to know everything in order to make that judgement, I invest that same amount of faith in believing he is instead, and that the bible is Gods word, and that Jesus is the word in the flesh.
For the big bang theorists: Let's look at the typical human dwelling, the home. If I took a container of steel, concrete, glass/sand, water some other odds and ends and blew it up with some TNT, what are the odds it creates a modern house? Flowing gardens, spacious indoor-outdoor flow, lakeside views, a TV, stereo etc...? Or does the more pleasing things to the eye require a designer/creator?
This is the typical Intelligent design believer, lost in the dark of ignorance.
Can we as a people a nation survive if we all think like she does? Go down the road to a new dark ages where the only facts are the facts the church tells us! But there is hope now! We are on the threshold of a new era of enlightenment, can we afford backstepping and teaching the bible as scientific truth?
Because the truth is that promoting science isn't just about providing resources"”it's about protecting free and open inquiry. It's about ensuring that facts and evidence are never twisted or obscured by politics or ideology. It's about listening to what our scientists have to say, even when it's inconvenient"”especially when it's inconvenient. Because the highest purpose of science is the search for knowledge, truth and a greater understanding of the world around us. Right now, in labs, classrooms and companies across America, our leading minds are hard at work chasing the next big idea, on the cusp of breakthroughs that could revolutionize our lives. But history tells us that they cannot do it alone. From landing on the moon, to sequencing the human genome, to inventing the Internet, America has been the first to cross that new frontier because we had leaders who paved the way: leaders like President Kennedy, who inspired us to push the boundaries of the known world and achieve the impossible; leaders who not only invested in our scientists, but who respected the integrity of the scientific process.
- Guest
Re: Jesus is coming soon
by kiwirock30 » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:09 pm
I love science & technology. But I don't disprove of creation and intelligent design and flushing valuable time spent elsewhere in humans life's.
No matter what leader or science professional may say or do in the future, one thing will never change with human rule, we've had thousands of years to prove it. When will starvation end? When will will every single person on this planet have equal rights? When will economies be done away with so there can not be a gap between rich and poor? When will discrimination end? When will power/control and pride end? When will death end? Exactly what leader or science can ever solve flaws in mens moral standards?
It doesn't matter whether we have Einstein's or Kennedy's, they all end in death. No leader or science can solve the real problems of the world. As fast as they make promises, they die and new leaders come along and change ideas and keep up greed and power. So when man quits trying to play God, maybe we might achieve much more than a more efficient way to kill each other or lengthen the days of our corruptible influence of life on this planet.
No matter what leader or science professional may say or do in the future, one thing will never change with human rule, we've had thousands of years to prove it. When will starvation end? When will will every single person on this planet have equal rights? When will economies be done away with so there can not be a gap between rich and poor? When will discrimination end? When will power/control and pride end? When will death end? Exactly what leader or science can ever solve flaws in mens moral standards?
It doesn't matter whether we have Einstein's or Kennedy's, they all end in death. No leader or science can solve the real problems of the world. As fast as they make promises, they die and new leaders come along and change ideas and keep up greed and power. So when man quits trying to play God, maybe we might achieve much more than a more efficient way to kill each other or lengthen the days of our corruptible influence of life on this planet.
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Re: Jesus is coming soon
by Guest » Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:45 pm
kiwirock30 wrote:I love science & technology. But I don't disprove of creation and intelligent design and flushing valuable time spent elsewhere in humans life's.
No matter what leader or science professional may say or do in the future, one thing will never change with human rule, we've had thousands of years to prove it. When will starvation end? When will will every single person on this planet have equal rights? When will economies be done away with so there can not be a gap between rich and poor? When will discrimination end? When will power/control and pride end? When will death end? Exactly what leader or science can ever solve flaws in mens moral standards?
It doesn't matter whether we have Einstein's or Kennedy's, they all end in death. No leader or science can solve the real problems of the world. As fast as they make promises, they die and new leaders come along and change ideas and keep up greed and power. So when man quits trying to play God, maybe we might achieve much more than a more efficient way to kill each other or lengthen the days of our corruptible influence of life on this planet.
Only through enlightenment can we solve these and other problems, for all you stated religion is the root of the problem. until we leave our childish ways behind and start to think and act with rational minds can we achieve this. The first step toward enlightenment is overcoming religious beliefs. The bible is not a scientific tool, how can a book of stories and myths be considered true science?
- Guest
Re: Jesus is coming soon
by fenn gap » Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:21 pm
dave wrote:you better know now that christ will return to judge sinners and will rule forever so sinners repent of your sins and accept jesus as your lord and savior if you do you will face his wrath and spend eternity in hell
you another one worshipping a dead man.
one of the commandments in the bible is to 'have no other gods before me'
and you and others are worshipping a dead man and breaking one of your gods commandments.
jesus was just a man 2000 years ago who was in todays terms a ' poitical activist' against the roman empire, the superpower of the day.
i suppose like mahat ma ghandi in his generation but our time.
it is also written that this jesus did not die on the cross as the bible tells but was merely unconscious from his wounds. when the soldier pierced his side to see if he was dead or alive, blood came out, suggesting his heart was weak but still pumping blood.
his family came to get him off the cross for "burial" and with them they brought 'murr' and incense, murr being a solution type medicine which was used to revive jesus. remember he suffered from loss of bood and went into unconsciousness related primarily to hypovolemic shock.
so when this jesus you worship doesn't eventuate
millions of believers like you will also be in shock
but you will survive what is really about to arrive.
and it will not be primaryly from space.
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Re: Jesus is coming soon
by griffanytiggs » Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:43 pm
Atwork wrote:dave wrote:you better know now that christ will return to judge sinners and will rule forever so sinners repent of your sins and accept jesus as your lord and savior if you do you will face his wrath and spend eternity in hell
So Dave, watch your typos, sounds like you're not much of a Christian...you're saying if we do repent our sins and accept jesus as our lord and saviour, we will face his wrath and spend an eternity in hell....Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. SH**
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Re: Jesus is coming soon
by Albert » Mon Dec 22, 2008 3:13 am
Elvis is dead Johnny Cash is dead John F. Kennedy is dead Tupac Is dead Jesus is dead I don't were going to see this people anytime soon but they do live in our hearts.
- Albert
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