antispectrum wrote:What if it does come? what if it doesn't?At least if you wake up on that morning and see a planet in the sky that wasn't there the day before,at least there's an explanation for it.what does it hurt to guess? they really do have that section blacked out on all of the public space viewing programs.It's a little fishy.It seems that every culture that pre dates our own points to 2012 for some great change or cataclysm.Maybe we get invaded by hostile aliens(no matter what you think,the goverments have to be hiding first contact from us,technology is just progressing way too fast.I almost think that stargate sg-1 show is just poking fun at the obvious.)maybe a comet hits us,maybe one of mankinds experiments with particle accelerators goes wrong and we open an event horizon on our planet.maybe nothing happens, but they did announce a planet x discovery in 1983 and soon after congress help a "secret" closed session.do you really think they would tell us one way or the other until the last moment? Out of all of the 2012 scenarios, the nibiru thing sounds the most realistic if you really think about it.Do you really think that our 60 year old space program really has any clue?they only know an infantile amount about space.The mayans seemed to know more than we do now when it comes to astronomy,they were incredibly accurate.Their belief in cycles over the ages is the closet absolute there is in this galaxy.It's worth a second thought at least.Wouldn't you rather be a little educated if everything goes to hell on that day? or would you rather be panicked and clueless if it actually happens?
Go to youtube and check out "flesh eating classified" it's a bill that makes you wonder about aliens.

ddd wrote:Hi

lilyblack, Im not sure where you came across the idea that i thought Planet x was a once off. All iv'e said so far is the logical reasons why it doesn't exist at all. From what I've learned, this is a planet - it has supposedly been seen in the past, so it's obvious from both of those points that it is in orbit around our sun.
But there are things wrong with that
1) This orbit is so elliptical that at perihelion (closest approach to the sun) Planet x cruises through the inner solar system. Once you consider such a long period orbit (3600 yrs) this orbit becomes so elliptic that it is practically a straight line, which is impossible. Comets and such can only do this because they have trillions apon trillions of times less mass.
2) This planet is BIG. I mean Jupiter is big, it has more mass than the entire solar system (planets) put together. But Nibiru is BIG. A big planet like that cannot move in the long period orbit. Escape velocity from the sun drops with the distance you travel from it. Nibiru ventures so far away from the sun that it's (sun's) gravity is unable to infuence the planet enough to pull it back again. Nibiru has too much mass, and therefore too much inertia, to be influenced by the sun at the apogee (furthest point) of its orbit. So tata Nibiru.
3) Nibiru's orbital period and our understanding that our solar system is over 4 000 000 000 yrs old (proven in many ways I might add - sorry if you're religious) tells us that it has approached the sun over a MILLION times. A planet with that much mass passing nearby will do much more than make floods and cause an ice age or three. It's gravity field is massive, a near pass would end life on earth. We'd ether be pulled into an exentric orbit which wouldnt create ice ages because the temeratures would be boiling one part of the year, and freezing on the other end of our newfound orbit. But most likely we, and venus and mars, would have been flung out of the solar system altogether long ago. If such a planet approached us EVEN ONCE, it would very likely be the end of life on earth.
The scientific world community is laughing at this Nibiru theory. They will laugh the hardest in 2012. But we don't have to wait that long, If Nibiru existed it would become plainly obvious well before 2012.
Hope that doesn't make you feel bad either.
But it's just not going to happen. So what if the sun lines up with the galactic centre occasionally, it mean diddly squat. Its aligned is all.

flamedemon1137 wrote:i think you guys are just filling idiots like me's head with crap

Wooly wrote:Yeah, I'll question your maths. Your maths is based on an object coming str8 at us. Niburu slingshots around Saturn in it's 3600 year orbit. So that is why it's visible. It's not about anything hitting us. The effects on earth will be based on the gravitational pull Niburu has. For instance the gravitational pull from niburu as it goes around saturn will pull solar flares out of the sun, thus giving earth drastic temperatures with servere consiquences. Polar shifts will also occur. Reverse polarities have been occurring on the sun for smetime now. Countries will go under water, Atlantis will return. Dont base your opinion on 2 weeks of tinkering on a subject that your life depends. Trust me. Invest some more time.

i have searched nasa nibiru isnt coming