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Global warming in the solar system?

Postby devil666 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:17 pm

:D Hi, I want your opinions regarding this subject affecting the entire planets and her moons. With increased volcanic activity including on earth, would you consider the suns increased gravity responsible due to solar flares and or higher matter intake then normal entering as fuel because of location in milky way at this time? Or a far larger threat exerting a gravity pull on the planets causing warming. The sun powers our weather as of late it's getting worse. With increased sun activity comes increased magnetic flux and particle emission threatening to over power earths own field. What are your opinions on this? Because of green house gas do you think a run away effect could occur here?
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby Guestwho » Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:46 pm

I don't think the location in the Milky Way affects it so much. But as to the rest of your post you have to remember how powerful the Sun is and how small changes in it can affect the whole Solar System. People seem to forget how large the Sun is to the extent that Global Warming theorists deny that the Sun has had as much impact on the Earth's recent climatic and (according to some) geologic change as have humans.

I would simply refer you to a scale photograph of the Sun and the Earth and let you decide how much changes within the Sun can affect not only the Earth but the entire solar system
http://www.towerform.co.uk/Desktop%20Background.bmp
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby engineerretired » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:39 am

devil666:

There is no reason to conclude that the Sun's gravity has increased. In fact, the Sun loses about 6.7 billion tons of mass PER HOUR due to the solar wind alone. However, it appears that only about .01 percent of the Sun's total mass has been lost in this way. In any event, the gravity of the Sun is not increasing.

There is some evidence that fluctuations in the Sun's surface temperature has an effect on climate.


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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby NM156 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:22 pm

devil666 wrote::D Hi, I want your opinions regarding this subject affecting the entire planets and her moons. With increased volcanic activity including on earth, would you consider the suns increased gravity responsible due to solar flares and or higher matter intake then normal entering as fuel because of location in milky way at this time? Or a far larger threat exerting a gravity pull on the planets causing warming. The sun powers our weather as of late it's getting worse. With increased sun activity comes increased magnetic flux and particle emission threatening to over power earths own field. What are your opinions on this? Because of green house gas do you think a run away effect could occur here?

I guess I'm surprised with your asking I guess I miss read you. I took you as a person who could careless what others think. I'm sorry but at time you are harsh to others. My opinion is that the Galactic crossing does affect our Sun it maybe preparing for a pole reversal. If so, I think it would be safe to say that this would affect everything else in our solar system. I have a theory of my own posted on a Nibiru site it may be pseudo-science but I did find a time line that fits the past events. Nibiru may-not exist but our movement through the Galactic Ecliptic could change everything. It all has to do with magnetism, the north side of the galaxy may be + the South side may be - our magnetic North is currently + South being -. The closer we get to the northern edge of the ecliptic we may reach a point of no return and the magnetic polarity of all the bodies of our solar system may switch. Evidence says we are at a weakening point in our magnetic field with sporadic magnetic changes showing signs in both hemispheres. With the Ice Caps disappearing on Mars it may also be happening there as well. Opposites attract, without a polarity reversal things may not orbit, Magnetism maybe one of the 11 dimensions of Gravity, but that's just my point of view, and may be wrong. In fact, my whole idea maybe wrong. I'm not sure but something tells me the veiled one is not well or maybe passed on.
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby Unbeliever » Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:34 pm

NM156 wrote:My opinion is that the Galactic crossing does affect our Sun it maybe preparing for a pole reversal.

...What? How would the sun crossing the galactic plane (not really, happening - it's actually rising away from it) cause a pole reversal?
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby devil666 » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:26 pm

Guestwho wrote:I don't think the location in the Milky Way affects it so much. But as to the rest of your post you have to remember how powerful the Sun is and how small changes in it can affect the whole Solar System. People seem to forget how large the Sun is to the extent that Global Warming theorists deny that the Sun has had as much impact on the Earth's recent climatic and (according to some) geologic change as have humans.

I would simply refer you to a scale photograph of the Sun and the Earth and let you decide how much changes within the Sun can affect not only the Earth but the entire solar system
http://www.towerform.co.uk/Desktop%20Background.bmp

Yes, i see your point if a solar flare hit us it wouldn't be good. I read some where sun spots exert a incredible amount of gravity and magnetic energy. I can't remember so i will look it up. Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby NM156 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:53 pm

The picture speaks for itself not only in shear scale but also to the proof that even a small change in the Suns activity can have a huge impact on Earth, and more so when the shields are weak. What it gives it can take, the result of a mass ejecta could only take hours and could alter Earth forever. Life will continue and man may pull through but that is not a certainty. It is my belief that the Sun is directly responsible for the Climate Changes we have seen happening for the past decade or so. I believe this will be proven as fact soon, lets just hope the predicted activity is much smoother than the scientific community has forcasted. At the very least we may be knocked back a few steps technologically, with satellites destroyed and ground based communications and electricity knocked out. We must at least prepare to live as we have in the past, where the land was what gave us life, where hard dirty work was something to be proud of. There may be no choice, work the land or starve, I just hope the panic doesn't result in nuclear war.
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby NM156 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:31 pm

Unbeliever wrote:
NM156 wrote:My opinion is that the Galactic crossing does affect our Sun it maybe preparing for a pole reversal.

...What? How would the sun crossing the galactic plane (not really, happening - it's actually rising away from it) cause a pole reversal?

Well if our solar system crosses through the plane of our Galaxy (the equator), and all known bodies have a + and - pole then to me the Galaxy must also have a + and - pole. The closer you get to either the more changes, hence Earths' weakening magnetic field. By me saying "it may reach a point of no return" means that both poles are decaying in strength and they will reach a point where they have to switch. I believe this last happened 13,000 years ago, and 13,000 years before that, yeah 2 crossings in a total 26,000 year Galactic orbit of our solar system. One N to S crossing and one S to N crossing. It takes as much as 32 years to cross the plane, it will be complete by 2016. Yes, we are rising away from it, it's a S to N crossing of the plane, if the north side of the Galactic equator is + the opposites dictate that our north pole would have to switch to - that doesn't mean doom and gloom or a flip flop of the planet just a change in polarity. The magnetic field would then regain itself only in reverse, however the Climatic Changes may continue to worsen until the change is made, and tectonic activity could also increase. I am most concerned about the activity of the Sun and what happens when its polarity switches. I also have an incorporated theory on a Nibiru post that may explain my crazy theory better, but you would not believe in that either now would you 8-) . Later
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby Unbeliever » Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:41 am

NM156 wrote:Well if our solar system crosses through the plane of our Galaxy (the equator), and all known bodies have a + and - pole then to me the Galaxy must also have a + and - pole.

All known bodies do not have a magnetic field, neither Mars nor Venus does, which is one of the principal concerns about sending humans to Mars - no magnetic field means no protection from cosmic/solar rays.
NM156 wrote:I also have an incorporated theory on a Nibiru post that may explain my crazy theory better, but you would not believe in that either now would you 8-) . Later

No, I wouldn't, on the basis that there is no evidence for Nibiru, and it's supposed orbit would be highly unstable - Jupiter's gravity alone would be enough to send it flying out of the solar system.
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Re: Global warming in the solar system?

Postby engineerretired » Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:44 am

The Sun, hence the Solar System, crossed the Galactic Plane about 3 million years ago. The next crossing will be in about 30 million years. There is no scientific evidence to suggest that the Galaxy has magnetic polarity. It does not.

The last Solar pole shift was in 2001. It occurs at the Solar Maximum (sunspot activity) about every 11 years or so. NASA and NOAA predict that the current cycle will peak in mid 2013. The Sun's magnetic poles shift quite frequently. It has nothing to do with Earth's magnetic poles.

There is no 26,000 year "Galactic orbit of our solar system." There IS a 26,000 year precession of the Earth's geographic pole. This has nothing to do with the magnetic poles.

The Earth may be in the midst of a magnetic pole shift. It usually takes a minimum of 1,000 years for the cycle to complete. It has nothing to do with tectonic activity.

Nibiru doesn't exist.

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