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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby ET » Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:19 pm

ddd wrote:I'm not claiming the existence of a swine flu conspiracy


Humor me. Lets play "connect the dots".

Opening statement; Scientific evidence the “swine flu” was bio-engineered to resemble the Spanish flu killer virus of 1918.

History
“The "Spanish" influenza pandemic killed at least 20 million people in 1918-1919, making it the worst infectious pandemic in written history.

Concept
Understanding the origins of the 1918 virus and the basis for its exceptional virulence may aid in the prediction of future influenza pandemics.

Fact
The 1918 virus pandemic was the direct result of TYPHUS FEVER VACCINES injected into 23 millions of soldiers during the Great War (WWI). John D. Rockefeller labs and factories in China produced these Typhus vaccines in 1916 by harvesting pus from infected humans, injecting the infectious matter into pig hosts, then mixing the harvested contaminants into chicken egg albumin to be injected into human hosts as a “vaccine”.

Evidence (Science Magazine Report of March 21, 1997)
RNA from a victim of the 1918 pandemic was isolated from a formalin-fixed, paraffin-embedded, lung tissue sample. Nine fragments of viral RNA were sequenced from the coding regions of hemagglutinin, neuraminidase, nucleoprotein, matrix protein 1, and matrix protein. The sequences are consistent with a novel H1N1 influenza A virus that belongs to the subgroup of strains that infect humans and swine, not the avian subgroup.

Next
Dr. Jeffrey Taubenberger (was on project) identified the 1918 killer virus as a “novel” (new) swine flu that “recombined” avian (H5N1) as well as human (H3N2) virus fragments in its RNA structure. Taubenberger used a complex computer program to perfectly match the RNA and DNA structures, and then successfully replicated and “resurrected” the 1918 killer flu as a powerful biological weapon in 2003, 6 years later. In fact this, virus is considered a bioweapon and needs Biosafety Level 3 containment.

Next
According to the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia, the so-called “Swine Flu”infecting and killing human beings in Mexico and North America this spring and summer, is a new subtype of the A/H1N1 not previously detected in swine or humans. This novel H1N1 influenza (swine flu) virus is a triple recombinant including gene segments of human, swine, and avian origin.

The above original appeared at http://www.ncsl.org/?tabid=17089

Hint
Mother Nature does not “naturally” recombine bird, swine and three human influenza viruses. (Birds do not exchange bodily fluids with pigs and humans)

Genome
An analysis of the “swine flu” genome sequence indicates that 5% of both these influenza A RNA sequences share no known homology in any public databases (in addition to the avian/swine hybrid nature of both these critical genes), and as such a laboratory origin for this virus must be seriously considered.

BLAST sequence homology of 'swine flu' indicates both the Hemagglutinin (HA) surface protein as well as the Non-structural (NS1) interferon Inhibition proteins are novel recombinants previously unidentified in nature. Both these influenza proteins, based on the genetic sequences released Friday May 1st by the U.S.Centers of Disease Control (CDC), share their closest genetic identity with turkey (avian) and pig (swine) strains from multiple continents including North America as well as Asia. Even the closest matches indicate 5% previously unidentified genetic material.

Lack of Evidence
The presence of this virus at the pig farm near the proposed CDC's "patient zero" (a 5 year old from La Gloria, 80km away from the pig farm in Perote, Mexico), shows that the origin of the flu outbreak remains unidentified at this time.

Baxter
Baxter Pharmaceutical has been chosen by the WHO to lead the efforts in finding a vaccine cure for the swine flu H1N1 virus.

Next
Baxter AG, headquartered in Vienna, and the Austrian subsidiary of the pharmaceutical company Baxter International, headquartered in Deerfield, IL, USA, sent vaccine material contaminated with deadly live H5N1 bird flu virus to 16 laboratories in four countries before a technician caught the mistake as all the test ferrets died.

The deadly mixture of live bird flu virus and human flu virus were mixed in a bio-security level 3 facility, where basic protocol and procedures would make it impossible to ever mix a live virus bio-weapon with vaccine material by accident. The Baxter facility did not radiate the material before they sent it out, leaving the deadly virus alive.

There is clear, verifiable and unambiguous proof that Baxter International, deliberately, willfully and knowingly, sent out the 72 kilos of live bird flu virus and as it turns out in further investigation (on going lawsuit) that the bird flu virus was supplied to Baxter by the World Health Organization.

To sum up, Baxter International, a global pharmaceutical corporation that has secured lucrative contracts to supply vaccines, mixed live bird flu with human flu vaccine material in a Bio-security level 3 facility, failed to radiate it, and sent it under a false label to 16 labs as flu vaccine material.

About eight weeks later, a artificial, genetic worldwide inter-species flu pandemic breaks out in Mexico City, close to another Baxter facility, and the same company is given government and WHO contracts to produce vaccines for the outbreak.

Lawsuit Against Baxter
Currently there is a lawsuit against Baxter for using homeless people in vaccine tests in the country of Poland. Some of them died.

-- Oh yeah, I'm just ET the "conspiracy nut". So don't listen to me. Don't look for yourself cause there is nothing to see. Please just kindly move along.
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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby ddd » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:40 am

ET, I'm happy to leave you alone, as you finally put some cards on the table in your last post. I was wondering if you would. Don't hold back on the off world history either, sounds great.(Hopefully no lizards involved) Farewell. Debate away fellas.
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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby fuzoid » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:57 am

ET wrote:fuziod,

You can't be that hard up for entertainment.


I'm not! You just make me laugh.

I've tried to supply some and you're just lovin running around like I'm the last little piggy in the brick house and you're still thinking you can huff and puff the whole thing down.


Oh, really? I challenge you to backtrack and pick out a single shred of evidence that you supplied.

ET wrote:The Illuminaughty was founded in 1987 AD after a 14 year long secret investigation into the existence of the Illuminati by the Corporation, which concluded, that no such organization existed. (Afterall, the craziness of the system cannot be maintained in the face of exposure to others outside the illuminutty system, right?) The illuminaughty's greatest achievement is convincing people that they (the order of the Illuminaughty) are a figment of the common imagination (much like the common garden goat), created to give credence to the inconsequential musings of the masses.

ET wrote:That was obviously humor fuziod. And you couldn't see that? I suppose licking your lips before making your written pounce was more an intriguing idea.


Don't you see the irony in your above statement? You're a laughing matter when you're not trying to be funny and aren't when you are trying. Now that is funny. :lol:

You are wrong on your historical dates on the Illuminati. BTW, it is Illuminatus, and that was the name for which I would not mock.


Uh, no I'm not! And no, they were not called the Illuminatus, that's nothing more than the title of a novel. A trilogy to be exact!

So, the spins on words like Illuminaughty or illuminutty was for the inconsequential musings given on this topic. It was obviously humor fuziod. And you couldn't see that? Interesting!

:mrgreen:


And you still don't see the irony? Interesting!

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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby fuzoid » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:08 am

fuzoid wrote:Yes, this makes you a conspiracy nut. Until you can provide evidence to support your beliefs, you will remain a nut. Ya know, ET, all it takes is just one piece of evidence to support your beliefs as you outlined in this thread. Can't you provide at least one? C'mon, just one. That's all were asking for, one!
ET wrote:Sigh!!! Here is your homework assigned fuzoid. Please try not to be so fully engaged in having to be right while viewing the information is all I ask.

http://www.google.com/search?q=Illuminati+history&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:*&sa=X&tbo=p&tbs=tl:1&num=10&ei=c3HNSpb2G8eo8Aa3nI3vAw&oi=timeline_navigation_bar&ct=timeline-navbar&cd=1

Enjoy!

:mrgreen:


Sigh!!! You should have done your own homework before posting a google search as evidence. Did you even bother to read through some of the links? There's not a single link that can be construed as evidence of any kind. They are nothing more than the ramblings of religious fundies and more conspiracy nuts. No wonder you view this as evidence! Try again.

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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby fuzoid » Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:50 am

ET wrote:Conspiriatistically speaking and using contingency analysis, the New World Order is no longer a conspiracy theory!!! It is a fact publicly acknowledged as an official agenda by governments and world leaders.
fuzoid wrote:Really? And those world leaders would be? Please quote a single world leader who believes, and is involved, in some vast worldwide NWO conspiracy.
Dragos-the-beliefer wrote:That is true, I heard many AMERICAN leaders speaking of making a New World Order. Even the Pope asked for a New World Order. And, BTW, why is a cardinal sitting in a chair with a Masonic pyramid, and the pope was once sitting in a chair with an UPSIDE DOWN CROSS? I repeat, UPSIDE DOWN. The most "faithful" priest of the priests, the Pope, sitting in a chair with an UPSIDE DOWN CROSS. How do you explain that? Want proof? This is your proof:

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I suppose I left myself open for this since I wasn't specific. However, since y'all are talking about some sinister worldwide conspiracy to create a NWO similar to the Illuminati in 1776, this doesn't qualify. And ironically you knew this! So either you really believe this is evidence for some conspiracy or your response is disingenuous. I'm leaning towards you really believe it because your responses do not hint at deceit. Anyway, the NWO the American leaders were talking about has nothing to do with controlling the masses. It's all about cooperation and communication rather than national isolationism.

As far as the pope sitting in a chair with a pyramid, who cares? Do you believe there is something sinister about a pyramid? And what makes you believe it is a Masonic pyramid? The Masonic pyramid is an incomplete pyramid with the Eye of Providence in a triangle above the pyramid. The eye is supposed to represent the all seeing eye of God. And you have a problem with the pope adopting it? Anyway, since you have not produced a photo of this pyramid, there is no way to tell what it is.

As far as the inverted cross is concerned, were you not aware that the apostle Peter requested to be crucified upside down because he didn't believe himself worthy to be crucified in the same way Jesus was? According to the bible, Jesus claimed Peter is the rock he would build his church on. The Catholic Church, being the first orgainzed Christian religion, took Jesus' statement literally. Why do you believe the Vatican named its square, St. Peter's Square? Anyway, it becomes more understandable why there is an inverted cross at the Vatican because it is the church built on the rock of Peter! There is nothing satanic or sinister about it. In fact, Simon LeVay, the founder of the Church of Satan, adopted the inverted cross because his church was supposed to be a mockery of the Catholic Church. This is why people now associate an inverted cross with satanism.

Anything else?


Yeah, real evidence.

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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby Fool » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:19 am

You could have just posted a link.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ottswinefluweapoized1918spanishflu02jun09.shtml
Interestingly enough, though, the one bit I wanted to see (the evidence, you know?) had a broken link. Now, I'm not saying that was on purpose, but I still need to see that article.
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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby fuzoid » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:15 pm

ET wrote:Unbeliever was basically rolling his eyes with his statement and then fuziod was just playing "I'm right and I know everything" in a rather sarcastic manner.


Guilty as charged. :lol: And it has nothing to do with being right or knowing everything. Had Dragos provided [real] evidence rather than making conspiracy claims without backng any of it, I would have gone easier on him/her. Oh, it's also about picking ones battle.

So, I went after both Unbeliever and fuziod because a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down.


LOL!!! Let me know when you finally get me to take my medicine.

Frankly, I enjoy talking to anyone who is saying something rather than being something. There is a difference.


Really? Let me know when you want to begin.
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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby ET » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:51 am

fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:fuziod,

You can't be that hard up for entertainment.


I'm not! You just make me laugh.


fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote: I've tried to supply some...


Oh, really? I challenge you to backtrack and pick out a single shred of evidence that you supplied.


Are you having problems understanding context?? The two lines where together and in a paragraph. Lets try again shall we.

ET wrote:You can't be that hard up for entertainment. I've tried to supply some...


And out of left field we get "pick out a single shred of evidence that you supplied". :roll:

Signed
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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby ET » Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:51 am



Thanks for the link!

Fool wrote:Interestingly enough, though, the one bit I wanted to see (the evidence, you know?) had a broken link. Now, I'm not saying that was on purpose, but I still need to see that article.


http://www.ncsl.org/IssuesResearch/Health/H1N1FluSwineFluPublicHealthAlert/tabid/17089/Default.aspx <-- Is that what you're looking for?
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Re: Conspiracy theories,9/11 incident,cults,war,religion

Postby fuzoid » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:13 pm

ET wrote:
fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote:fuziod,

You can't be that hard up for entertainment.


I'm not! You just make me laugh.


fuzoid wrote:
ET wrote: I've tried to supply some...


Oh, really? I challenge you to backtrack and pick out a single shred of evidence that you supplied.


Are you having problems understanding context?? The two lines where together and in a paragraph. Lets try again shall we.

ET wrote:You can't be that hard up for entertainment. I've tried to supply some...


And out of left field we get "pick out a single shred of evidence that you supplied". :roll:

Signed
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Touché! And you're correct, I did misunderstand. I figured since we were discussing conspiracy theories that you would stay on track. That's what I get for assuming. Anyway, the challenge stands.
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