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Re: Believe in God

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:08 am

it does not matter which road you choose. christian, jewish, muslim, pagan, etc... if you follow the golden rule, every road leads to the same destination.
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Re: Believe in God

Postby Deianera » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:27 pm

chrisbink wrote:lol my thoughts on God:

he doesn't want the religious crazies, he wants the people who have laughed and played and not wasted anytime talking to someone so incredibly busy to act as your personal emotional crutch

he wants the guys who have just 'lived' and appreciated life

my thoughts on the devil:

he created religious crazies to start wars in gods name, you must do this at a certain time blah blah hey he's not doing that heathen lets bash his head in, long story short (not including charity cake bakes)

if the good big guy is coming for me it's because i didn't waste my time in a stone building singing dull hymns i was out enjoying myself. and if he wants to wipe me off the planet then good for him I'm sure he had a good reason.

to all religious fruits out there look at yourself yer nutter, created in his own image, then he would want a pint as much as the rest of us, kick back and watch some of the drivel tv we pump out, if i was god i would be smiting those crazies on the street who were handing out second coming leaflets (and the muggers of course)

ta da my answer to all :)

I'm raising a Guinness to Heaven in your name. Thank Gods you haven't been wasting all of your time! (For that matter, neither have I). Deianera
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Re: Believe in God

Postby Deianera » Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:10 pm

Atheist wrote:What's all this God crap? Religion is what's wrong with the world. More and more people are waking up to this fact, that's why belief in these fairytales is falling. I'm not saying one religion is better or worse than any other, I'm saying they're all as bad as each other. They all teach that you should condemn anyone that doesn't believe what you believe. For instance, there was a time in England when you could be beheaded for being Catholic and another time when you could suffer the same fate for being protestant, depending on the Monarch in power at the time. Be your own God if you want one. You are responsible for your own actions, good or bad. There is no God that makes you do good things and there is no Devil tempting you to do evil. You harp on and on about having free will but then if you do something bad you go to your cleric and beg forgiveness. Even then after begging forgiveness, you go out and do exactly the same thing, that's not what being sorry is, it's not just a word, being truly sorry means you're not going to do it again. I can't go out into a city centre without being subjected to bible bashers preaching at me what I should or should'nt be doing but that is for me to decide. I don't break the law, I have morals and I have manners but these are nothing to do with religion. If I do a good thing I feel pride, which whether you religious nutballs want to believe it or not is JUST A BASIC HUMAN EMOTION…yet you believe it a sin.
If you look at all the war and conflict in the world, the vast majority can be traced back to religion. WWII…Hitler persecuting the jews because he couldn't stand the fact that he was Jewish. Wars between Israel and Palestine…purely based on religion…all the trouble in Ireland, fighting because the Catholics couldn't get along with the protestants. You preach peace and love towards all men but the moment someone disagrees with you, you persecute them. That's what I call hyopricitical. Maybe once religion has faded into nothing people will actually be able to get along.
I realise that most people on this website are probably yanks who blindly believe in a God with no proof that he actually exists (and no, there is NO proof that he exists as you can't prove a lie to be true), and are probably going to get really upset with what I have said, but I don't care. I am entitled to my beliefs just as you are, and it's not my fault that you don't have the intelligence to see the truth. What else should I expect from a nation that voted George Bush back into power even after they knew what he was like?
Oh, one last thing…evolution happened. Deal with it.

Sir, you are very angry, and I care.
I live in Amerika, but I am no Yank. I am Irish, Scottish & French. This country didn't vote George Bush Jr. into office either time- the Electoral College did. Google it up. Never in the history of this country has a president actually been elected by its own people. Think about it. I've had to, all of these years- my mother became an Amerikan citizen on the very day that President Kennedy was assassinated. I was seven at the time.
The Troubles in Ireland, especially lately, have NEVER really been about religion, but about politics. There ought to be ONE Ireland, for the Irish, & that's that. End of the Troubles- end of long, sad, horrible story. So there. God has little if anything to do with it. It's all the fault of human beings.
If you don't believe in God- and I think that you'd like to, that it's poisonous religions that you actually hate- don't worry, They believe in you. I am a Gnostic; there is a God the Mother as well as a God the Father who created all of the Universe. As well as you yourself. Take heart. Gnostics have the oldest known Bible, have no churches or harmful doctrines, and practise the good of all faiths. We have never started or condoned any wars.
Take care- Deianera
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Re: Believe in God

Postby Deianera » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:44 pm

Erin wrote:
Mr. Po wrote:
weather wrote:Hi I believe in God I also believe in UFOS and Ghosts I have had experience of this
there are other realms otherworlds mysterys that we will never beable to favam out

You're right about other realms, they're called heaven and hell. And untill we reach one of those two destinations we will not fathom them, but trust me, you'd rather be fathoming heaven than hell my dear friends. It's not a matter of churching or reading the bible, it's FAITH, if you dont' have it you got nothing! Read your bible every night but struggle to apply any of it or simply choose not to? Go to church every week and looking like a great christian but only doing it to be saved? Answered yes to either these I suggest you look at your life and the faith you think you have because I say it's shaky… and in the end it's yoru faith and willingness to serve God that counts.. not wacking your kids of deciding that looking good will help. It doesn't! There is NOTHING you can do that will make him close the door and there is nothing you can do to make him keep it open either! It's called Grace and it's the only way any of us will see the pearly gates of heaven! Serve God, don't try to impress him… He can do anything, impressing him is kind of hard! and in conclusion pointless.

“Who ever believes is saved” john 3:16, it's not “who ever goes to church” “who ever reads the bible the most” “who ever can comb their hair in the most sexy fashion” no it's “WHO EVER BELIEVES IN ME!” Let that sink into your hearts.

I'm not here to slander you or say you're wrong. I'm only going to share with you of what God has shared with me, only he knows the day… And we shall not. Though he says be ready, but do not let yourself be consumed in the wait.

“I believe in a god who doesn't need heavy financing”, Chevy Chase, “Fletch Lives!”

“Nukem' or feed'em?”, every American's question about every Middle Easterner. And the answer is: “NUKEM'”!!!!!!!!!!

HOW DARE YOU??!!!! You must be a Yank. Your own troops are fighting in the Middle East & you'd stir up even more hatred than there already is against them & your own country? Know that the holy Qu'ran says that in the Final Days that the one God (not YOURS, apparently) shall first punish "the blue-eyed unrighteous of the Earth who are at one with the Shaitans and squander the money of the poor". What do you really think that 9-11 was really all about, fool? Wake up, you idiot! Everyone on Earth but you & yours know that your country is only using Israel to make war with the Middle East so that you can justify invading & stealing all of its oil- otherwise, why does your country always pay less for it than everyone else does?? Deianera
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Re: Believe in God

Postby Deianera » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:54 pm

MEtALHeAd wrote:I have a question. Why does everyone bring up the Christian side of God? Why label faith? All I get from this is that Christianity is right and everyone else is wrong. I think that is very egotistical of all Christians. I have faith for Him, but not in anyway labelled by man. I'm proudly not Christian. Pretty much 99.9% of all hardcore Christians are all hypocrites. Same with any religious nut. Racism also so seems to be profound in any massive religious area. Why? I'll talk to anyone and show them respect. I'll only lose that respect if it's not shown back. I went to church once and was shunned just for being part native american. I'll never go again.

I don't blame you. I have Native American friends & we all know that the Great Spirit loves everyone, & never requires anyone to be in church, but to love Him & nature always. Thanks so much for writing- Deianera
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Re: Believe in God

Postby bluelist » Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:32 pm

i would suggest that all of the people so fond of quoting the bible do some research. so much of its original message has been altered, it is no longer the word of god, but the word of men bent on control.

you dont need the bible, or a church, or, my favorite, to "just accept jesus into your heart" to be saved.

the path to enlightenment leads through your own spirit which has broken away from, and seeks to reconnect to, the divine.

living by "the golden rule" and using whatever gift you have been given to the benefit of mankind is the way.
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Re: Believe in God

Postby Believe in Magic » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:10 am

Deianera wrote:
Atheist wrote:What's all this God crap? Religion is what's wrong with the world. More and more people are waking up to this fact, that's why belief in these fairytales is falling. I'm not saying one religion is better or worse than any other, I'm saying they're all as bad as each other. They all teach that you should condemn anyone that doesn't believe what you believe. For instance, there was a time in England when you could be beheaded for being Catholic and another time when you could suffer the same fate for being protestant, depending on the Monarch in power at the time. Be your own God if you want one. You are responsible for your own actions, good or bad. There is no God that makes you do good things and there is no Devil tempting you to do evil. You harp on and on about having free will but then if you do something bad you go to your cleric and beg forgiveness. Even then after begging forgiveness, you go out and do exactly the same thing, that's not what being sorry is, it's not just a word, being truly sorry means you're not going to do it again. I can't go out into a city centre without being subjected to bible bashers preaching at me what I should or should'nt be doing but that is for me to decide. I don't break the law, I have morals and I have manners but these are nothing to do with religion. If I do a good thing I feel pride, which whether you religious nutballs want to believe it or not is JUST A BASIC HUMAN EMOTION…yet you believe it a sin.
If you look at all the war and conflict in the world, the vast majority can be traced back to religion. WWII…Hitler persecuting the jews because he couldn't stand the fact that he was Jewish. Wars between Israel and Palestine…purely based on religion…all the trouble in Ireland, fighting because the Catholics couldn't get along with the protestants. You preach peace and love towards all men but the moment someone disagrees with you, you persecute them. That's what I call hyopricitical. Maybe once religion has faded into nothing people will actually be able to get along.
I realise that most people on this website are probably yanks who blindly believe in a God with no proof that he actually exists (and no, there is NO proof that he exists as you can't prove a lie to be true), and are probably going to get really upset with what I have said, but I don't care. I am entitled to my beliefs just as you are, and it's not my fault that you don't have the intelligence to see the truth. What else should I expect from a nation that voted George Bush back into power even after they knew what he was like?
Oh, one last thing…evolution happened. Deal with it.

Sir, you are very angry, and I care.
I live in Amerika, but I am no Yank. I am Irish, Scottish & French. This country didn't vote George Bush Jr. into office either time- the Electoral College did. Google it up. Never in the history of this country has a president actually been elected by its own people. Think about it. I've had to, all of these years- my mother became an Amerikan citizen on the very day that President Kennedy was assassinated. I was seven at the time.
The Troubles in Ireland, especially lately, have NEVER really been about religion, but about politics. There ought to be ONE Ireland, for the Irish, & that's that. End of the Troubles- end of long, sad, horrible story. So there. God has little if anything to do with it. It's all the fault of human beings.
If you don't believe in God- and I think that you'd like to, that it's poisonous religions that you actually hate- don't worry, They believe in you. I am a Gnostic; there is a God the Mother as well as a God the Father who created all of the Universe. As well as you yourself. Take heart. Gnostics have the oldest known Bible, have no churches or harmful doctrines, and practise the good of all faiths. We have never started or condoned any wars.
Take care- Deianera

It's funny how, when presented with a factual argument, you try and win a conversation by starting out with "there's clearly something wrong with the individual" who is giving you the information and that you're there for them and care...To make your self feel like your something special and you caring really matters to anyone in this world.
Why would you believe there is a mother god and a father god? What if god is asexual? I mean he made each and everyone of us right? Do you really think he banged the mommy god? Hell no, he did it all him self. It says it in the bible.
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Re: Believe in God

Postby Deianera » Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:59 pm

You're missing the point & obviously haven't read the Gnostic Bible, which I mentioned. I've read all of your posts and you sound like a mixed-up 12 year old Goth who is justifying following the "devil" or whatever to get back at church going parents. Just live & let live, kid . Deianera
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Do you realy believe in god....

Postby Zartor Annunaki » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:44 am

We all believe to our new gods....we allready forgot the real one...Don't say we believe because if you realy believe the world shouldn't be shitty like this it should be a peacefull planet...our new good is Euros, Dollars etc....That's why we kill each other....Our God is not happy with us...he gave us a beautiful plannet to live but we are destroying it....Do we deserve to live on this planet ?....
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Re: Believe in God

Postby jt » Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:28 pm

so i'm told to believe in god so that i can enter heaven when i die.
is that the reason why ppl are supposed to believe in god for?
so what happens when the world does not end after 2012?
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