And you totally ignored the points I raised regarding your predictions. And you've still to prove that these predictions have come true.

themanthelegend wrote:And you totally ignored the points I raised regarding your predictions. And you've still to prove that these predictions have come true.

Well it's not my responsibility to do your research for you. I answered your question with a legitimate response but, you seem to be wanting to make this into an issue of some kind. I don't mind a good discussion but your trying to disprove something without knowing what it is. I suggest just opening a Bible and reading it and then realizing for yourself just how close to the end of days we are. I enjoy a good discussion as long it its an unbiased discussion that isn't based on one persons inability to accept the points put out as truthful. Run a couple of Google searches and you won't need me to find your answers for you.
Peace and don't let religion be such a millstone around your neck. It's a good thing if you let it be, really.
The Alien

I feel that biblical codes that predict the future and all that other stuff is wrong, but you can believe what you want. I just feel that religion is a way of giving people hope, and in these times hope is something we need. However; if there was a god I'm sure that the rapture would not be caused by a giant comet that people saw coming.

TheAlien01 wrote:

themanthelegend wrote:And you totally ignored the points I raised regarding your predictions. And you've still to prove that these predictions have come true.

Well it's not my responsibility to do your research for you. I answered your question with a legitimate response but, you seem to be wanting to make this into an issue of some kind. I don't mind a good discussion but your trying to disprove something without knowing what it is. I suggest just opening a Bible and reading it and then realizing for yourself just how close to the end of days we are. I enjoy a good discussion as long it its an unbiased discussion that isn't based on one persons inability to accept the points put out as truthful. Run a couple of Google searches and you won't need me to find your answers for you.
Peace and don't let religion be such a millstone around your neck. It's a good thing if you let it be, really.
The Alien

Stop wussing out and answer the man! A true discussion could take place when you put your facts and figures on the table. That's why you started this thread isn't it? Make a claim, back it up. 85% sounds like you've mapped it all out - so present it.

Well.....
I'd have to say it's all B.S.
Alien01 likes to look smart but all of his rebuttals and all of his stories are straight from text's he didn't write. Copy and paste. Control + C, Control + V. All in all, religion period is something designed to control the masses. In my opinion. From texts I've read, movies and documentaries I've seen. I'm not educated on the subject but from what I've been exposed to It seems to me that it's all a form of control. Some religions demand more from their believers than others. Some require you to fast and pray every few hours to be deemed worthy of being called a worshiper. Some are more passive and require less from their followers to be deemed 'part of their religion'. It's all a form of control. Illusion.

I'll speak about the bible for now.
There was once a time when the bible was thought to process all the answers to existence. But now as humans we know theres MORE to life than just 'Alakazam Ala kazoo BAM theres life!'. It's scientific. There are so many uncountable factors that contribute to the existence of life on this planet that can ONLY be explained by careful observance and scientific experiment and documentation. Such balanced and easily disturbed ecosystems can only be the result of evolution over generations by EVERY plant and creature simultaneously, all reacting to one another's behavior. Being able to see solar systems, stars, and recently planets on the far reaches of our galaxy can only be accredited to science and the hard work and determination of MAN KIND (NOT GOD) to find the origins of our existence, and the future of our race.

The bible is a relatively short book. Such a book could not contain all the answers to our origin, or our fate. If we truly new the origin of ourselves, life itself, and the fate of ourselves and our planet it would require a much larger space to be printed on. Theres so much more to it. And theres so much more OUT there than the bible would want you to know about or care about. We're in 2009 A.D... Why has it taken so long for our said savior to arrive, especially when we and our planet need him/her/it the most? People sit in mass every Sunday and pray for a better world tomorrow. Why not just MAKE one? Start by nurturing the great teet we're all still suckling on, mother nature. Our planet is our lifeblood. We need it to survive yet we fight wars that destroy it in every way possible. We fight war over religions/beliefs, skin color, creed, women, labor, resources, territory... And all these wars further collapse the earths stock of available resources which sustain our human race.

Forget about old and obsolete belief systems that blind you to reality. These belief systems that halt the progression and evolution of the human race. Focus on building on our sciences, and technologies and we can achieve a greater tomorrow for everyone on the planet. Everyone. God, Allah, Buddha, Rha, Zeus... it doesn't matter which god you believe in. None of them are helping us now in times of great need, war, and famine around our globe. It's US who have to act, and develop the technologies and sciences to HELP EACH OTHER. And help everyone who is deserving, which is everyone worldwide regardless of beliefs or skin color.

2012? Mayan Calendar? Bible? Karon? Get real. Wake up. Screw all your Intellectual materialism, reciting bible passages and copy/pasting wikipedia notes... Do something to HELP people. Don't just push your beliefs.

Well it's not my responsibility to do your research for you.

Typical response for someone who lacks the info themselves.

I answered your question with a legitimate response but, you seem to be wanting to make this into an issue of some kind. I don't mind a good discussion but your trying to disprove something without knowing what it is.

I was waiting on an explanation myself. You say you don't mind good discussion but you have dodged the main point of your discussion when asked about it. Is it because you have no more to explain because you copy/pasted everything you could find about it? Or do you just not want to discuss it because you know you cant honestly say that 85% of all prophecies have been fulfilled 100%. Every prophecy that i have seen people claim from the bible has in fact been no where near 100%. Its always well they meant this when they said that.

I suggest just opening a Bible and reading it and then realizing for yourself just how close to the end of days we are.

This I have done, read Revelation many times as it is my favorite part. It has the most action, but nowhere in there does it say that its happening anytime soon. It does however seem that it was supposed to have happed along time ago according to the bible, but as we can see it didn't.

I enjoy a good discussion as long it its an unbiased discussion that isn't based on one persons inability to accept the points put out as truthful.

So as long as no one disagrees with you then you will share these secret prophecies that only you know have happened. Damn well i guess your not going to share them with me either cause I think you are as full of s**t as 'themanthelegend' does. Oh and i like that "inability to accept the points put out as truthful",
it is rather hilarious that you really believe what your saying and claim it is "truthful".

Run a couple of Google searches and you won't need me to find your answers for you.

Will probably find the same crap you have copied/pasted here. That doesn't mean its true just cause you and someone else believes it.

Peace and don't let religion be such a millstone around your neck. It's a good thing if you let it be, really.

Really? I mean if we just drop religion doesnt that mean that some of those religious prophecies wont take place therefore never bringing about the end of the world? Sounds like a plan. You know what would be even better? If religious people would keep their thoughts to themselves and not try to force their crap on everybody else. Then we wouldn't have to worry about all those religious wars in the prophecies. We could all live peacefully believing in what we wanted.

Why don't people think logically anymore?

Scott-
Astrophysicist-
http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/

Osiris wrote:I feel that biblical codes that predict the future and all that other stuff is wrong, but you can believe what you want. I just feel that religion is a way of giving people hope, and in these times hope is something we need. However; if there was a god I'm sure that the rapture would not be caused by a giant comet that people saw coming.

I agree that Religion is very important during bad times.But we need to keep to it during those good times as well or we tend to slip and fall and end up back in bad times again.Thessalonians 5:2o and 5:21 say that we should not despise prophecies,and to prove all things.I think that there are people out there who want to make up false ideas based around their own personal beliefs and experiences rather then go by the facts handed down from age after age by people who weren't caught up in hollywoods biased views or lunatics claiming to be the Messiah trying to get others to worship them.
As for the Bible code, I think that its a good trick.Ive done the same thing using a stephen king novel and found alot of names and dates.Its like one of those puzzles where you circle the words mixed in with alot of other words and then say hey,I found it!
When the end comes,God wants us to see it.Thats why he gave us his book telling us that we will need to endure a 7 year tribulation if we arent taken when Christ returns.When Christ does return its going to happen so fast,like a blink of the eye and be done yet everyone one on earth will see it happen.And those that Christ takes will be taken up into the clouds to be with him and instantly transformed into their new spiritual bodies.These will be the main warriors that will lead the battle at Armageddon against the evil fallen angels(nephilim) and Satan himself.(pssst..I read the book and the good guys win!)
We live in exciting times because we are now seeing the beginning of the birth pangs of the end of days and like birth pangs they will increase and become more frequent.Floods,tornado's,earthquakes,signs in the heavens above on all across the planet.We are truly living in a time of the signs and if you are a believer and follower of God then you know that this is all leading to a much better world.
Peace
The Alien

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TheAlien01 wrote:

themanthelegend wrote:And you totally ignored the points I raised regarding your predictions. And you've still to prove that these predictions have come true.

Well it's not my responsibility to do your research for you. I answered your question with a legitimate response but, you seem to be wanting to make this into an issue of some kind. I don't mind a good discussion but your trying to disprove something without knowing what it is. I suggest just opening a Bible and reading it and then realizing for yourself just how close to the end of days we are. I enjoy a good discussion as long it its an unbiased discussion that isn't based on one persons inability to accept the points put out as truthful. Run a couple of Google searches and you won't need me to find your answers for you.
Peace and don't let religion be such a millstone around your neck. It's a good thing if you let it be, really.
The Alien

You really should prove your case with some solid evidence before you go making crazy claims. If you expect everyone else to go find the information, that's really not going to help prove yourself, now is it? It would be like if the man in that saying was neither given a fish or taught how to fish, but is instead expected to learn himself. The man will probably starve, and he definitely won't be following the person who neither gave him a fish or taught him how to fish. And do you understand what unbiased means? Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary defines it as "free from bias ; free from bias ; especially : free from all prejudice and favoritism : eminently fair <an unbiased opinion>". So an unbiased conversation would barely have any actual "conversation" and more "stating objective facts that have already been proven true", with examples being that the Earth is round, things can hurt, fish can swim, ect. You can not have an unbiased conversation with something like religion unless you say thing we know for sure like the Bible is a book, Muslims generally live in the Middle East, Hindus believe in many Gods, ect. You cannot have a unbiased conversation on an issue such as Christianity being the true religion, because there are plenty of people, including me, who think that is flat out untrue. Buddhists, Hindus. Confucians, and Taoists are a few examples, though I am not any of them. You religious nuts need to realize that your religious beliefs aren't the only ones out there.

ddd wrote:

TheAlien01 wrote:

themanthelegend wrote:And you totally ignored the points I raised regarding your predictions. And you've still to prove that these predictions have come true.

Well it's not my responsibility to do your research for you. I answered your question with a legitimate response but, you seem to be wanting to make this into an issue of some kind. I don't mind a good discussion but your trying to disprove something without knowing what it is. I suggest just opening a Bible and reading it and then realizing for yourself just how close to the end of days we are. I enjoy a good discussion as long it its an unbiased discussion that isn't based on one persons inability to accept the points put out as truthful. Run a couple of Google searches and you won't need me to find your answers for you.
Peace and don't let religion be such a millstone around your neck. It's a good thing if you let it be, really.
The Alien

Stop wussing out and answer the man! A true discussion could take place when you put your facts and figures on the table. That's why you started this thread isn't it? Make a claim, back it up. 85% sounds like you've mapped it all out - so present it.

I did.

Talking about star aligment:

click on the first link (Nebra disc):

http://www.top-projet.com/forum-t93-p1, ... s.html#146

Interesting, I've never heard of it