21 12 2012 at ??:??

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21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby HRIbar » Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:03 am

Hey I was thinking...can anyone try to determine the exact time that the alignment happens. The idea is to use an astronomy program(stelarium, deep space explorer etc.) that can simulate deep space objects and that select S-7A(supermasive black hole/center of our galaxy), select sun(our SUN :) ) and set date to 21 12 2012. Then observe at what time the alignment will happen. I would do it myself but I don t know how to work with the program, it's kind of complicated. And then post it here please. :D
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Re: 21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby Unbeliever » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:10 am

The sun doesn't align with the galactic centre in 2012, it's an optical illusion caused by our position in the galaxy. Even if it did, the centre is 280,000 light years away, and would have absolutely no affect on the Earth.
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Re: 21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby HRIbar » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:59 am

Unbeliever wrote:The sun doesn't align with the galactic centre in 2012, it's an optical illusion caused by our position in the galaxy. Even if it did, the centre is 280,000 light years away, and would have absolutely no affect on the Earth.


The diameter of our galaxy is 100,000 light years...so there is no way the center is 280,000 light years away. It's about 30,000 light years away, still that does not change the situation about its effect on us. The sun does align with the center of the galaxy from the earths perspective and most people say something will happen because of it. If each cycle is 5125 years and ends with a cataclysm than one cycle back about 3000 BC is the time when we have many stories about disease and famine and naturals disasters (the Egyptian catastrophes). If we go two cycles back 10250 years ago, that is the time when Atlantis supposed to have sunk and when the Great flood was supposed to have happened (modern research) and many cultures across the globe that didn't even know about each other until 18th century will tell you stories about Atlantis and the Deluge. 10,000 years ago is also the time when Würm ice age (the last mayor ice age) ended.


Some links so that you know I didn't just make that up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%BCrm_glaciation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_myth

Is it just a coincidence that so many cultures around the world believed in the same things and didn't know each other? And it all coincides with the Mayan calendar. We are now at the end of the final cycle and if the stories are correct this one ends with the greatest destruction of them all. There is a lot of evidence about civilizations that predate Egypt and Mesopotamia for millenia (including underwater pyramids). But the ruling elite won't accept this (I don't know why) so you can not hear about it in mass media and no expeditions are taken to explore this. I know a lot about physics and I have no idea why would an alignment have any effect on earth but many prophets and many ancient cultures tell us that something will happen.

A link about underwater pyramids : http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan_5.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/phikent/japan/japan2.html&usg=__o6N9Pq0SFSUgNFgyMBQWkxNPPUM=&h=292&w=387&sz=33&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=J-m80uCLUfwrTM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dunderwater%2Bpyramids%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den

Just Google it a bit :D
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Re: 21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby Guest » Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:07 am

Unbeliever wrote:The sun doesn't align with the galactic centre in 2012, it's an optical illusion caused by our position in the galaxy. Even if it did, the centre is 280,000 light years away, and would have absolutely no affect on the Earth.


The diameter of our galaxy is 100,000 light years and we are not on the edge so the center is about 30,000 light years away. I know a lot about physics and I have no idea why would an alignment have any effect on earth but many prophets and many ancient cultures tell us that something will happen. Many civilizations that did not even know about each other set the same date for this to happen - 21 12 2012 (in their calendars of course).
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Re: 21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby Fool » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:11 am

Nah, not absolutely no effect. Just very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very little effect.
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Re: 21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby Unbeliever » Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:15 am

Guest wrote:
Unbeliever wrote:The sun doesn't align with the galactic centre in 2012, it's an optical illusion caused by our position in the galaxy. Even if it did, the centre is 280,000 light years away, and would have absolutely no affect on the Earth.


The diameter of our galaxy is 100,000 light years and we are not on the edge so the center is about 30,000 light years away. I know a lot about physics and I have no idea why would an alignment have any effect on earth but many prophets and many ancient cultures tell us that something will happen. Many civilizations that did not even know about each other set the same date for this to happen - 21 12 2012 (in their calendars of course).

I meant to say 28,000 light years, but my point still stands. Saying that the sun aligning with the galaxy will affect Earth is like saying that you shouldn't drive at sunset because you'll crash into the sun.
If you 'know a lot about physics', why are you trusting the predictions of ancient civilizations who had no concept of gravity or astrophysics?
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Re: 21 12 2012 at ??:??

Postby believe » Tue Jun 30, 2009 11:49 am

If you are catholic, you should not believe any of this. The bible says that yes, people will be able to predict the future, but NOBODY will be able to predict when the world will end. Only God knows the time and date of the end of the world. Believe in God. We have nothing to worry about.
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