Guest wrote:the fool in his heart said that there is no God!

Good for him.

Respect is earned, not given.
When Christians start to respect my beliefs by NOT knocking on my door and shoving their religion down my throat, then I might start to respect theirs. Until that time, they are nothing more than delusional fools intent on destroying free thought.

More atheists will earn my respect if they stop bashing me for my religious beliefs and start showing a lot more compassion. I am a christian, but I can't imagine myself committing sin by trying to force people to believe in Christianity. Answering questions and talking about my beliefs in a friendly manner is fine, but forcing my beliefs? That's too cruel! Besides, I can convert people by just acting in a holy manner rather than using words and annoying people to do so.

As long as the prejudiced (like the guy who made the quote) discriminate, you can expect me to be hostile to them. Saying that I'm a "delusional fool" will only make me even more hostile to whoever says that to me. You can count on that.

Just because "their" calender ends doesn't mean we'll die, but if we do then we should've been dead a long time ago besides we have a 365 day calender, does that mean we'll die in a few months after x-mas??? Probably a meteor will hit earth, but i doubt it'll kill us because lots of other meteors hit earth and just made a giant crater. That's it! And in my opinion any god will know when the earth is gonna come to an end except us and no, i don't think jesus is gonna "happen" but who cares if he does or doesn't. If he does and we know we're all gonna die, we'll still have to face reality and if we don't die then whatever our life goes on as usual.

lol, i knew it was a joke from the start, you know, every few years they come up with some bullsh*t theory that the end of the world is coming, think about 6-6-06, for example.

but let's assume this is true... so what? it will be the end, what are you trying to prove, are you just trying to stress us out or what?
and if it's not true(which i strongly believe) you're only making a fool of yourselves believing this. but that's just my opinion

Zachary T C wrote:

Respect is earned, not given.
When Christians start to respect my beliefs by NOT knocking on my door and shoving their religion down my throat, then I might start to respect theirs. Until that time, they are nothing more than delusional fools intent on destroying free thought.

More atheists will earn my respect if they stop bashing me for my religious beliefs and start showing a lot more compassion.

Here's a thought, stop preaching your way is the only way and all others are going to some non-existent hell and you won't have a problem with atheists!

I am a christian, but I can't imagine myself committing sin by trying to force people to believe in Christianity. Answering questions and talking about my beliefs in a friendly manner is fine, but forcing my beliefs? That's too cruel!

What's cruel is anyone of any faith believing they are the only one with the right answers. I'm curious, how do you feel about seperation of church and state?

Besides, I can convert people by just acting in a holy manner rather than using words and annoying people to do so.

Really? And just how do you go about doing this? Since you're not speaking, are you using some form of holy mind control?

As long as the prejudiced (like the guy who made the quote) discriminate, you can expect me to be hostile to them.

So, it's only okay for the religious to discriminate? I'm curious, how do you feel about homosexuality? What do you think of gays?

Saying that I'm a "delusional fool" will only make me even more hostile to whoever says that to me. You can count on that.

And? Do you honestly think someone who believes you to be a delusional fool really cares? BTW, Jesus would turn the other cheek. Are you saying you're above that?

And where is the proof that there IS a God? The fairy tale you call the Bible can't help us now

DragOnFrost wrote:Well, Guys there's no "god" to start off with.
Because we have never seen one or talked to one.
IF there is god why is there war? Why are there terrorists in the world?
Wouldn't the world be peaceful and happy?
God is a belief.
I'm not a believer, but I'm a prover. I prove everything with science and common sense.
If there is a god anyways, why is the world going to end? Well, no one has exact proof there is god.

This is actually an ignorant opinion. I do not blame you for not believing. Or the fact that you want evidence before believing. Actually, I think most people in modern 2009 reflect the same opinion as you in the western world today.

You say there is no God. Why? Because you have never seen or talked to one..

Well, to start with:
1) You don't SEE God
2) You actually FEEL God (the Holy spirit etc..)
3) Moses is the only person in the Bible (and history for that sake..) whom God has made himself visible to. What have you, or I, for that sake completed this life and as a result earned to SEE God as a physical being?
4) The only reference to God in the Christian world is the bible. Nothing else. Read it and learn. In such a case personal opinions nurtured with ignorance will most likely be replaced with facts.

IF there is god why is there war? Why are there terrorists in the world?
Wouldn't the world be peaceful and happy?

1) We are born with a free will and a choice. The drawback is that we are born 50/50 good and evil in us. We can CHOOSE to GO WITH GOD or serve ourselves, and as a result of that go against the most universal principle of goodness; in service to others. Whatever people choose will nurture one of the 50%'s..so if you choose evil deeds, your evil human nature represented by ego will nurture. Opposite of course if you chose good deeds..
2) Evil deeds are happening in this world because we have CHOSEN to carry those forward. But I sometimes wonder if God is thinking that to have provided us with a free will and choice in the first place might perhaps have been a mistake..
3) For the record, I have doubts God is a human like being. I think Star Wars portraits it well, by using the word "the force". I believe God is the ultimate force, or energy, almighty enough to both create AND destroy.

I'm not a believer, but I'm a prover. I prove everything with science and common sense.
If there is a god anyways, why is the world going to end? Well, no one has exact proof there is god.

1) Well, I can't debate with you about the proof about whether God exists or not. Traditional main stream science just hasn't managed to prove it yet. But glancing out into the infinity of the universe...how far do you THINK science has really reached??
2) This is just a wild guess, but as a "scientist" you are probably atheist, right? Ten points to me. Meaning, you probably believe in good things in people...IF you had knowledge from the bible, you would probably know that the Kingdom of God is inside of us...this pretty much gives coherence to this divine Kingdom inside of all of us.

That bible, man. It truly IS mysterious, endless, timeless, reaches out to all of us in it's own language..

As a scientist, you probably acknowledge wireless technology. Up in space you KNOW there is a satellite sending messages. You cannot see it, but somehow you believe it. And the signals (language/communication/message) is abstract. Sort of like invisible. But you believe this also exists, because it reaches out to you. You can hear it through your CELL PHONE when the message arrives.

Well, I think God operates the same way. Deep out into space there is a divine source we named God. Messages from the almighty source are being sent out to all of us, constantly. Like you need to turn on your cell phone to receive a message, you also need to OPEN UP YOUR MIND to receive the message of God.

And something about religion. Religion IS NOT the root of all evil that many claim. Religion in itself (all of them actually) are plain peaceful promoting love and in service to others type of philosophies to live by. The root of all evil is HUMAN NATURE. THE EGO. But unfortunately, religion has been abused as A TOOL too many times through history, in order to MANIPULATE, DOMINATE and CONTROL the masses. All carried out by a few very very SELFISH selves who chose to live by the principle of in service to self instead of in service to others. Just IMAGINE what Hitler could have achieved IF HE WAS A SANE PERSON..

The thousand year peace maybe?

About 2012...I don't believe it's the end of the world. But we have yet to see the peak of natural disasters like tsunamis, floods, pandemics etc. But I DO BELIEVE we live in a PRIME TIME where general AWARENESS and CONSCIOUSNESS is opening up and manifesting. After that WE can change the world to something better.

Vaia Con Dios amigo & to all of you

fuzoid wrote:

Zachary T C wrote:

Respect is earned, not given.
When Christians start to respect my beliefs by NOT knocking on my door and shoving their religion down my throat, then I might start to respect theirs. Until that time, they are nothing more than delusional fools intent on destroying free thought.

More atheists will earn my respect if they stop bashing me for my religious beliefs and start showing a lot more compassion.

Here's a thought, stop preaching your way is the only way and all others are going to some non-existent hell and you won't have a problem with atheists!

I am a christian, but I can't imagine myself committing sin by trying to force people to believe in Christianity. Answering questions and talking about my beliefs in a friendly manner is fine, but forcing my beliefs? That's too cruel!

What's cruel is anyone of any faith believing they are the only one with the right answers. I'm curious, how do you feel about seperation of church and state?

Besides, I can convert people by just acting in a holy manner rather than using words and annoying people to do so.

Really? And just how do you go about doing this? Since you're not speaking, are you using some form of holy mind control?

As long as the prejudiced (like the guy who made the quote) discriminate, you can expect me to be hostile to them.

So, it's only okay for the religious to discriminate? I'm curious, how do you feel about homosexuality? What do you think of gays?

Saying that I'm a "delusional fool" will only make me even more hostile to whoever says that to me. You can count on that.

And? Do you honestly think someone who believes you to be a delusional fool really cares? BTW, Jesus would turn the other cheek. Are you saying you're above that?

You don't even know me! I don't want to be homosexual, but I don't fuss about homosexual people! How do I feel about separation of church and state? I don't want a theocracy, but I don't want prejudiced atheists making religion illegal! That's a hipocrite's action! I have at least one friend that is an atheist. He is very smart. But, does he mistreat me by bashing me for my beliefs? No! I'm not going to judge who goes to hell or not! Only God knows that!

Me75 wrote:The fairy tale you call the Bible can't help us now

From what exactly, the fairytale of 2012?

Since mankind has existed we have been frightened with some kind of Apocalypse by somebody smarter at that time.
Since we're a bit smarter than stone age people, they need to support a new "end of the world theory" on some kind of imaginary science.
It's all about power or money.

And it's fine with me...
... I just saw a good movie, somebody made some money and that's the end of the story.